Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Tuesday 24th July 2007, 21:26   #1
pnraby2002
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 3
Belarus

Hi all,

I am off to Belarus in October 2007 and would be very grateful for some detailed bird site information on where to go in this very under-watched country.

Very interested in catching up with Azure Tit.

Many thanks

Peter


pnraby2002 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 24th July 2007, 21:43   #2
delia todd
Moderator but.......If I say the wrong thing put it down to Senior Moments
 
delia todd's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Perthshire
Posts: 91,839
Hi Peter I see this is your first post, so may I welcome you on behalf of the Staff and Moderators at Bird Forum

There's an entry on Opus which might give you a start in your search for the Azure Tit

Hope this helps

D
__________________
In between goals is a thing called life, that has to be lived and enjoyed

2006 63, 2007 52, 2008 46, 2009 32, 2010 31, 2011 27 Total 81

Latest Patch tick: Magpie

The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing - Socrates
delia todd is online now  
Reply With Quote
BF Supporter 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Click here to Support BirdForum
Old Tuesday 24th July 2007, 21:43   #3
StuartReeves
Casual Eurocrat
 
StuartReeves's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Posts: 3,698
Welcome to BirdForum Peter. I'm sure BF's very own Eastern Europe correspondent, Jos Stratford, will be able to help with this one.
StuartReeves is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 25th July 2007, 12:15   #4
Jos Stratford
Pondering the next...
 
Jos Stratford's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Exile in East Europe
Posts: 11,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartReeves View Post
Welcome to BirdForum Peter. I'm sure BF's very own Eastern Europe correspondent, Jos Stratford, will be able to help with this one.
Feel like a BBC journalist after that intro

Anyhow, yes I've got to know Belarus quite well over the last couple of years and THIS LINK, part of my website, gives an account of four trips to the south of the country, during which Azure Tits featured prominently.

Have a read through it, then get back to me with any specific questions you may have. The country is fantastic ...toilets good too, the link on the website will explain why
__________________
For photographs and articles, Lithuania and beyond, click here for my website
Jos Stratford is online now  
Reply With Quote
BF Supporter 2007 2009
Click here to Support BirdForum
Old Wednesday 25th July 2007, 20:44   #5
pnraby2002
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 3
Hi Jos,

A great read! But rather lacking in detail. The exact location of the village of Kudrichi would help as well as the other sites mentioned in the article. I would really like to see Great Grey Owl and Azure Tit.
pnraby2002 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 26th July 2007, 15:09   #6
Jos Stratford
Pondering the next...
 
Jos Stratford's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Exile in East Europe
Posts: 11,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnraby2002 View Post
Hi Jos,

A great read! But rather lacking in detail. The exact location of the village of Kudrichi would help as well as the other sites mentioned in the article.
"But rather lacking in detail" - such is birding in this valley, areas are vast and birds such as Azure Tit can occur anywhere in good habitat. However all locations I mention are on maps. Details beyond that are not so easy, as Kudrichi, for example is at the end of about 15 km of rough gravel roads and much easier for you to simply get a map than me to describe the various turns, as I will probably forget one. It took me sometime to find it, even with a map!

In fact, the report is not really lacking in details so much...

eg "day two in my search for Azure Tit started in the settlement of Mikashevichi. Meandering down a maze of dirt tracks, I eventually reached a fabulous area of wet woodland" It is exactly that, from the village I left the village and drove at random down little dirt roads, turning here and there in the general direction of the river (south) - I happened upon one super area, though probably no more super than than an area if I had happened to take another track.

eg "notch up the footwork, put in the kilometres and, sooner or later, I had to bump into an Azure Tit ...or at least, so I convinced myself! Chose to walk along the river, hugging the bank where possible, the habitat a mosaic of mature trees, swampy hollows and meadows, a fantastic piece of landscape.". Again, exactly what I did, from Turov, drove to a random patch of riverbank, then started to walk.

So, in short, sorry for the lack of detail, but the whole valley is excellent and it is birding at its best, find good habitat (everywhere) and look - the Azure Tits wander a lot, but can be in any village or area of wet riverside woodland.

For locations in my report, that certainly will not guarantee Azure Tits in October, you need a good map (in Russian preferably, as all local signs where they exist, will also be in Russian ...plus useful if you need to ask directions!). Alternatively, pay my visa and I will come and show you
__________________
For photographs and articles, Lithuania and beyond, click here for my website
Jos Stratford is online now  
Reply With Quote
BF Supporter 2007 2009
Click here to Support BirdForum
Old Saturday 28th July 2007, 16:58   #7
pnraby2002
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 3
Thank you for all that info Jos, I am getting rather excited about visiting a country that few birders has visited.

One last question: How easy is it to find accommodation (plus hot food) in the area you mention?
pnraby2002 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 29th July 2007, 21:00   #8
Jos Stratford
Pondering the next...
 
Jos Stratford's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Exile in East Europe
Posts: 11,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnraby2002 View Post
Thank you for all that info Jos, I am getting rather excited about visiting a country that few birders has visited.

One last question: How easy is it to find accommodation (plus hot food) in the area you mention?
Turov has a hotel, it is rather basic and harks back to bygone days Restaurants in that part of the world are, erm, interesting! I can recommend the 'pizza' in the small restaurant in Turov - looked a bit more like a hybrid omlette, had nothing in common with pizzas that you might be more familiar with and you must remember to take the cling film off that has sunk into the relatively hot topping (which is essentually tomato kechup, with extra tomato kechup). I stop in my local supermarket here in Lithuania before crossing the border

The much larger town of Pinsk probably has hotels and restaurants to standards comparable with elsewhere in Europe, well almost. However, Turov is probably a better base for at least part of your trip, a lot more localities in that area.

Food and hotels are only a minor detail, the valley is fantastic and the birding great. A couple of questions - how long will you be there and what part of October are you planning your visit? Also,will you have a car?
__________________
For photographs and articles, Lithuania and beyond, click here for my website

Last edited by Jos Stratford : Sunday 29th July 2007 at 21:04.
Jos Stratford is online now  
Reply With Quote
BF Supporter 2007 2009
Click here to Support BirdForum
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Belarus ..information wanted Jos Stratford Information Wanted 11 Saturday 15th April 2006 07:29
Belarus mjk Europe & Rest of the World Patches 3 Saturday 19th February 2005 12:34


Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Search the net with ask.com
Help support BirdForum
Ask.com and get

Page generated in 0.14171100 seconds with 17 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 13:21.