Troublesome Birds - Hong Kong (1 Viewer)

Chinese Spot-bill Duck - Spot-billed?
Banded Crake - Black-banded?
Yellow-throated Minivet - Pericrocotus solaris on Avibase = Grey-chinned on Opus?
Red-billed Thrush - Brown-headed Thrush?
Hill Myna

Sorry if we've loked at some of these before, but my laptop has gone belly-up :-C so I've lost all my notes from that one.

D

OK, a couple for now:

the stonechat must be siberian.

Melodious Laughingthrush should be Hwamei = Garrulax canorus

Niels

Hi Delia

Hong Kong has a mix of names due to its colonial past. I'l fill in the gaps I can without references,a nd comment later on the rest:

Chinese Spot-bill Duck.
There are two races - Chinese spotbill (zonorhyncha)a winter visitor, and Burmese Spotbill harringtoni, (a declining breeder in Hong Kong)

Northern Sparrowhawk is the same as Eurasian?

Banded Crake - Black-banded? Band-bellied Crake is a vagrant with less than 5 records, and Banded Rail (or Slaty-breasted Rail) is a resident mangrove & marshland species.

Yellow-throated Minivet - Pericrocotus solaris on Avibase = Grey-chinned on Opus?
I think solaris = Grey-chinned - need to check.

Jungle Nightjar is the same species as Grey Nightjar?

Black-headed Shrike - Long-tailed Shrike or Black-headed Shrike Babbler? Long-tailed Shrike Lanius schach. No shrike-babblers in Hong Kong. also, the race in Hong Kong is not black-headed

Common Stonechat - Siberian? Yes

Red-billed Thrush - Brown-headed Thrush?
Never heard of Red-billed Thrush. What is the reference?

Spectacled Laughingthrush - Masked Laughingthrush? Yes

Melodious Laughingthrush - can't find on Avibase
This maybe a dodgy new name for Hwamei

Styan's Grasshopper Warbler - Pleske's Grasshopper Warbler? Yes

Siberian Flycatcher - Dark-sided Flycatcher? Yes

Indian Verditer Flycatcher - Eumyias thalassinus on Avibase - not on Opus
Just plain Verditer Flycatcher in Hong Kong

Fulkien Niltava - not found on Avibase
Misspelling - should be Fujian Niltava - based on the name of the Chinese province where it was discovered by Pere David

Grey-hooded Bunting - Grey-necked or Chestnut-eared (Avibase gives both)
Chestnut-eared is the name we use in Hong Kong

Black-tailed Hawfinch - is it really Yellow-billed Grosbeak? Yes

Hill Myna = Grackle

Cheers
Mike

Hi Mike

Thanks for all those - I'll work through them later.

Perhaps you could have a look at the Hong Kong article for me, as there's a few oddities in there which I haven't listed above.

I had PC problems :-C last night and just didn't have the strength to cope with them

D

OK I've left:

Spotbill - should both be included in the article then and should both be re-directed to 'Spot-billed Duck' as neither Chinese nor Burmese are on Opus.

Banded Crake - the 'crakes' look a bit of a mess in the Check-list and I'm really not sure what is what there.

Red-billed Thrush is shown in the Check-list

Hill Myna= Grackle but which one please?

Thanks

D

Chinese Spot-bill Duck - Spot-billed? Yes, use Spot-billed Duck (Anas poecilorhyncha) for this one. Avibase has an Eastern SbD (Anas zonorhyncha) that only seems to be recognized by Gill & Wright, I assume that is the one meant by "Chinese"; it is best treated as a subspecies for now.

Banded Crake - Black-banded? Black-banded is a South American species, so definitely not that one. Avibase has a banded crake that is synonym for Slaty-legged Crake (Rallina eurizonoides) with a possible distribution, and a Chinese Banded Crake that is a synonym for Band-bellied Crake (Porzana paykullii) which also has a possible distribution. I think these are the two Mike referred to above, and therefore you should probably go for Rallina eurizonoides which is also Slaty-legged Crake in Opus.

Yellow-throated Minivet - Pericrocotus solaris on Avibase = Grey-chinned on Opus?: In Avibase they use Grey-chinned as the accepted name and yellowthroated as synonym for Pericrocotus solaris which as you say is Grey-chinned on Opus

Red-billed Thrush - Brown-headed Thrush? I found at least one other source with red-billed a synonym for Brown-headed, so I would change to that

Hill Myna: Avibase has Hill Myna (Gracula religiosa) in most of China, that would be Eastern Hill Myna in Opus. I assume "Grackle" is a local name for this one?

Cheers
Niels