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Old Tuesday 28th August 2007, 22:47   #1
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First attempt at Drawing and Painting Birds

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Im 15 and have just started Drawing Birds.
These are my two that I have finished today, what do you think?

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(the Kingfisher is a painting of a bird in a Magazine and the Glossy Ibis, is of the imm Bird at Fluke Hall, Pilling, Lancashire)
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Well Zac - if these really are your first attempts I'd personally be absolutely thrilled with them- you clearly have talent and I, for one, look forward to watching it develop. Excellent work sir.
Oh - when you say the ibis is from Fluke Hall - do you mean you worked on this drawing from life or took some piccies and worked at home?
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Zac,
I'm with Tim, very impressive for first (or even first hundred) attempt! Looking forward to seeing more from you.
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hi Zac

Well done. Superb work.

Those pictures are really good. I love them a lot

So, my advise to is to keep on with this. I am looking forward to seeing more of your work in the near future.
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Old Wednesday 29th August 2007, 07:57   #5
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Thankyou for the overwhelming feedback!
The Ibis looks better on paper, my scanner isn't of excellent quality!
I took several photo's of this bird, as I helped re-find it at my local patch, and when it turned up at Flukehall, I wanted to get it again, and then Marshside, and Lytham, so from a bird that myself and other patchers didn't assume on the morning of the find, that it would stay for almost a year (and counting!)

I aim to get much better at drawing birds, I have always been quite good at drawing and shown an interest in bird sketches ever sinse I met Tony Disley (a local patcher and bird artist) who inspired me to take my drawing to the next level.

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Old Wednesday 29th August 2007, 07:58   #6
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Your Ibis is superb, Zac

Looking forward to seeing some more.

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Old Wednesday 29th August 2007, 08:46   #7
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I think I went a bit far with the Ibis, so I am glad that I managed to scan the image before I finished it!

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I think I went a bit far with the Ibis, so I am glad that I managed to scan the image before I finished it!

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Zac, I like your stlye. What materials are you using?
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Love the Kingfisher painting Zac - interesting technique on the Ibis too - Amazing you capture such a perfect outline shape from the field - very tough - and lot's of talent there - Well done!!
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Hi Zac, The pictures are great. I'me looking forward to seeing a lot more sketches.
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I agree with everyone else here, great stuff, and keep it up, if your drawings are this good now, who knows where a couple more years will take you!
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Zac, I like your stlye. What materials are you using?

hi Zac

I am thinking the same as Marcus here. Your Ibis, has the full factor here

Are you using pastels, charcoal, or is it pencil, as the effect on the linework is very pronounced, meaning very alive?

Keep on with your artwork, it is very good.
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Especially love the Ibis. It brings back memories of a holiday we had in Brittany a couple of years ago- it was the only time I had seen one -fab bird. Keep up the art work its great.
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In answer to the Ibis Technique, I am just using a HB Pencil, nothing fancy!
(saw a Great White Egret at Leighton Moss RSPB oday aswell as 3 spoonbill, so I intend on Copying the photo's that I took)
It sounds like I give the impression that I draw the birds on site, this is my no means true! I just copy images, and also books for the colour!

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Nothing wrong with that Zac - you're still making wonderful drawings. When you're next out birding, though - why not pop a sketch or two in your notepad; just a head detail of an easily seen bird - mallard, tufty etc, or a 'ball with a stick' wader sketch - just to see how you feel about drawing from life. My feeling is you'll get to love it and do it as readily as you make your birding notes.
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I am very grateful for all these encouraging comments, and I am sure that I will do plenty more that I can share as I hopefully get better over time.
I should probably have the Egret or Spoonbill ready by the end of the week as this should be quite easy due to it being a white bird with not much feather detail!

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I just copy images, and also books for the colour!

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Even so, Zac, excellent drawing nonetheless - I can't even copy a photo with such a level of accuracy - Very impressed indeed and you obviously have a feel for the structure and anatomy of the bird!
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Very impressed indeed and you obviously have a feel for the structure and anatomy of the bird!
I like to think I know birds well, as I spend hours and hours looking at Books and photo's and ID tips to help with my real passion - Birdwatching.
I have always wanted to start drawing the birds I saw, but I always used to draw the illustrations in books, and I was never happy with them, but now I copy pictures, this is much more fun and rewarding!

Here's the Spoonbill from today - It is not excellent as it is just a sketch because I intend to paint it later...
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I like to think I know birds well, as I spend hours and hours looking at Books and photo's and ID tips to help with my real passion - Birdwatching.
I have always wanted to start drawing the birds I saw, but I always used to draw the illustrations in books, and I was never happy with them, but now I copy pictures, this is much more fun and rewarding!

Here's the Spoonbill from today - It is not excellent as it is just a sketch because I intend to paint it later...
Hi Zac

Your drawing of your Spoonbill is beautiful, graceful, and very mystical.

There is nothing wrong with copying pictures from books or even photos. It gives you a feel for your subject too. It also helps build up your abilities, and you will just get better and better each time you produce a drawing of a bird.

I think your picture it is great as it is, without painting it. Of course that is the aim is that you paint it for maximum effect.

I would love to see the end result here, so looking forward to that too.
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There is some lovely work here, well done. You obviously have a good eye and I would echo Tim's sentiments, you should get out for a day armed with sketchbook and pencil and see where the day leads you, I think you would enjoy the experience hugely. The results are guaranteed to be of great aid to your artwork and understanding of birds in general...
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Nothing wrong at all with copying pictures, but for that personal feel, IMO, nothing beats a page full of scribbles for creating memories of a good day's birding and as a starting point for more finished paintings. The spoonbill is a cracker, I've only ever seen one, which I did sketch, but I may aswell have been sketching a carrier bag as it was asleep miles away in a marsh.
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There is some lovely work here, well done. You obviously have a good eye and I would echo Tim's sentiments, you should get out for a day armed with sketchbook and pencil and see where the day leads you, I think you would enjoy the experience hugely. The results are guaranteed to be of great aid to your artwork and understanding of birds in general...
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Nothing wrong at all with copying pictures, but for that personal feel, IMO, nothing beats a page full of scribbles for creating memories of a good day's birding and as a starting point for more finished paintings. The spoonbill is a cracker, I've only ever seen one, which I did sketch, but I may aswell have been sketching a carrier bag as it was asleep miles away in a marsh.
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So true what you have said here, I should have what you have mentioned in my lasting posting here. Outdoors is an good sketching experience too.

I agree, also that a trip outside helps build up a picture of your subject too.

Looking at your subject, with the continually changing light and colours gives you a good idea how to use colour and texture with your drawings too. All that fresh air will stimulate your mind too.

Lots of ideas on this thread. Zac, you will succeed, as you are talking and posting positive thoughts here, as this thread goes forward.
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Just another Sketch I didthis evening of today inc. - Great White Egret (into the light - as I saw it today unfortunatly) 2 of the 3 Spoonbill and a small group of Black tailed Godwit and Resdhank
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