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RAINBIRDER
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Lochandubh sits behind Gowk Ness on the eastern Scottish coast. Its privileged position attracts interesting autumn waders especially after easterly winds and if the water levels stay favourable. The site has one big drawback-public access is discouraged & only distant views are obtainable.
Below is a photoselection of this autumns birds-many are poor or distant views. None are nearctic waders.They are grouped in 4 blocks of 4. Suggest you number each block in order & identify each bird in the block as top right(TR), top left(TL), bottom right(BR) & bottom left (BL). Number the birds in the flight shot as 1-3 in order............ Sadly I have been unable to secure Jane T's "Woolies pics" as first prize though if the Swarowski sponsorship deal comes through that may change. Good luck. ![]() |
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Block 3:
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Block 4 & flight pics:
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Hi Steve,
Names laid out as on photos (top left = top left, etc) 1 Greenshank - Ruff Curlew Sand - Spotshank 2 Greenshank - juv Redshank Dunlin (?) - Common Sandpiper 3 Dunlin - Greenshank Dunlin (?) - Greenshank 4 Spotshank - islandica Blackwit Common Sand - Temminck's Stint 5 Greenshank - Spotshank - Ruff Michael |
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Take a closer look Michael. The JPEG compression has caused some distortion making it harder than I meant it to be. You did badly in block 2 getting 1/4 & others wrong elsewhere. Can't say too much as I'll give the show away.
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Senior Moment
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Instant impressions - without much thought:
Block 1 Greenshank - Wood Sandpiper Curlew Sandpiper - Spotted Redshank Block 2 Greenshank - Redshank Curlew Sand - Green Sand Block 3 Dunlin - Wood Sand Black-tailed Godwit - Greenshank Block 4 Spotshank - Bar-tailed Godwit Wood Sand - Little Stint Flying Marsh Sandpiper - Spotshanks - ?Ruff? |
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Only time for one block... 1
TL... Looks like a Y-legs, but no neararctics!, sturcture says greenshank, but where it it get all that spangling/notches...which leaves me with Wood Sand...but it looks way too long legged, and possibly billed... So an unconvinced Wood Sand that is somehow distorted. BL Looks like a juv Curlew sand....again the structure looks funny, but the face pattern and peachy wash look right. So a wee bit more confident on this one. BR.. I can't see a bird unless I turn up the light on on the monitor, then I see something that might be a spotted redshank. TR looks weird, pin headed and out of proportion. So I'll apply the if it look funny its probably a ruff law. |
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Block 2
TL Greenshank...though some nagging doubts about Blackwit TR Redshank BR Common Sand...but again the shape is soooo distorted Bl Eek. I think it has to be a Dunlin though I'd be wanting a better look to rule out a Broad Billed Sand |
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Block 3... is a bit blooming dark!
TR looks like a Wood Sand BR I'd put down as a greenshank in fading light...though it may be a Marsh Sand TR Best guess is Dunlin on its hunching BL Looks like a stint. Lets guess Little |
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Block 4
TL Spotshank... TR Black tailed Godwit BR ....looks deformed. Dunlin as a guess BL is up a Tree so I'm guessing Temminck's Stint |
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Flyers.. Marsh Sand, Spot Red and Ruff
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I´ll try, but I didn´t get the dark images much lighter and If I try to enlarge them some more after I have clicked on them my computer goes on strike (probably I should go back to work, but this is Fun!)
with Block 1 greenshank-Ruff Curlew sandp-spottshank Block 2 Greenshank-Redshank Temminks-Common Sp Block 3 Dunlin-Wood Sp Blackwit-Greenshank Block 4 Spottshank-Blackwit Green Sp- Temmincks Flying Marsh Sp-Spottshank-Ruff |
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Block 2 top right has been bothering me... I think its another distorted Ruff.
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and that block 2 BL still has me thinking Broad-billed, though I can't make it any more than an impression. Its the bill shape and stance mostly.
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Had a go at these before looking at other's answers.
Block 1 Wood Sandpiper - Ruff Curlew Sandpiper - Spotted Redshank Block 2 Greenshank - Redshank Dunlin - Green Sandpiper Block 3 Dunlin - Wood Sandpiper Little Stint - Greenshank Block 4 Spotted Redshank - Black-tailed Godwit Temminck's Stint - Little Stint Flight shots Marsh Sandpiper - Spotted Redshank (3), Ruff (at back) - Ruff Now lets see what others thought.
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Brian http://www.peterboroughbirdclub.org.uk The quality of online identifications may go down as well as up. Your list is at risk if you do not get second opinions. Last edited by brianhstone : Wednesday 12th November 2003 at 15:20. |
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Another guess for Block 2
Marsh Sp-Spotshank Broadbilled Sp-Common Sp Jörn |
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Between everyone all images have been correctly labelled.........- except for one image in block4. Nobody has got all images correct (the nearest is 15/19).
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The one that no one has got in block 4 has to be one of the bottom ones... Both Godwits have been picked... and surely TL is a Spreddie.
BR is a calidrid and still really does look like a Dunlin to me, mainly on the scruffy underparts.... and its also been named as Little Stint and Temmincks, so surely that means some on has it right? So is it the arboreal silhouette we need to clinch? Green Sand, Wood Sand and Temminck's are already named for that.... |
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Aye, the packs closin' in!
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I'm stuffed..can't get past Temmincks for that one...what else is that shape AND sits in trees. HELP someone.
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By logic I guess TR 4 is a Barwit too.
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I'll have a go:
Block 1: Wood Sand Ruff Curlew Sand Spotted Redshank Block 2: Greenshank Ruff? Curlew Sand Common Sand Block 3: Dunlin Wood Sand Little Stint Greenshank Block 4: Spotted Redshank Blackwit Common Sand Temmincks Stint? Flight: Greenshank Spotted Redshank Ruff |
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All the blocks have individually been successfully ID'ed by at least one person now apart from block 2. "Reflect" on block 2 & dont stagnate!
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RAINBIRDER
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Jane, it would only be that shape if I was sitting in the tree almost level with it. Picture taken from the ground. For any subscribers allied to rare bird protection please note that no schedule 1 birds were photographed on breeding territory (thats not a singing Temmincks-honest).
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