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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:27   #1
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bird Mastermind round 4...

Keeping off the gulls and raptors for now.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:29   #2
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One in the garden, another vrey locally the third in the UK and one in the US.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:38   #3
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1. ??????????
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:43   #4
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1)Woodchat Shrike
2)Willet
3)Leach's Petrel
4)Chiffchaff(tristis or abietinus)
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:53   #5
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I reckon Harry's got them all right - can't fault any of those dets.

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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 16:56   #6
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The Chiff is in a hawthorn (Crataegus sp.), and there's heather (Calluna vulgaris) + assorted grasses behind the shrike
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:00   #7
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Blimey that was quick. The Woodchat was supposed to hold you up

Right...time to pull out some hard ones!

Obviously the Willet was in the garden..... no it was the petrel

The Chiff called like an abientinus.

Harry in the lead there.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:04   #8
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Well, I was late. I would have got the Leachs and the Chiffchaff, but the other two...no.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:07   #9
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Snowba's chance in hell of beating you lot. 2,3 & 4 as per Harry but I wouldn't have got the Woodchat shrike in number 1 despite kind of seeing it once suggested. I was initially thinking along the lines of a first winter Ficedula (?pied).
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:15   #10
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Supplementaries on the way.... to keep the thread alive
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:17   #11
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New pics for round 4....

here you are
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:20   #12
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No more clues.... I only have two more in hand, I need daylight to get pics off the slides!

Two in my garden..that's a clue. Herbage too please
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:37   #13
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I have reasons for adding this too. Two species.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:41   #14
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First lot:

1. Bunting sp. Female Cirl? (have no faith in this answer)
2. Garden Warbler
3. Spotless Starling
4. Female Lady A Pheasant

Second lot:
Left hand bird - Pied-billed Grebe
Right hand bird - Long-tailed Duck

Must bring some field guides into work.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:42   #15
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1)Little Bunting?
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3)Either very odd-looking Starlings or a non-WP species?
4)Lady Amherst's Pheasant?
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:46   #16
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Hadn't seen last photo.Def.Long-tailed Duck on the right,and Marek may well be right with Pied-billed Grebe:that head and bill look good for one,BUT can Little be ruled out on this photo?
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 17:54   #17
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I added that pic because I gave myself a fright with that bird on the left. My estranged hubby took it and I had never blown it up before. The pic was taken in November I think... I found the LTD on a private site. Its a brick pit that's easy to view, being only 20 ft from a road but you climb a gate and often have outrun the guard dogs.

Not sure there has been A PBG in Cheshire. The bill head and hape look a bit good to me. This could be a one that got away!
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 18:01   #18
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I'm going for:

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2) Garden warbler
3) Spotless Starling
4) Silver Pheasant
5 + 6) Little Grebe and Long-tailed Duck
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 18:18   #19
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ok 2 is clearly too easy. Yes its a garden warbler

On orignal slide of the grebe, which I now have under a microscope (literally) the bill and head shape still look pretty good for PBG.

Any views on the sex of the LTD? I was trying for size, since I make the grebe 2/3 the length of the duck!
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1. female Cirl B.
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4. female Golden pheasant (convinced myself the belly is barred)
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 18:32   #21
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Coal & candlelight a female?
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 19:15   #22
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 19:49   #23
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grebe in extreme magnification

Hmm. oor er

Wish I'd got out of the car to look at the duck now!
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 21:26   #24
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1. Pine Bunting.
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Old Thursday 13th November 2003, 21:33   #25
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1. is a female cirl
2. GW
3. Indeed are spltless starling - don't they look a little spiky-billed and pin-headed

4..is a mess
5...is excluded
6. LTD

The Pheasant looked like a Lady A....sounded like a Golden. I caught it in the end it was in the company of a male Lady A.....which got away....actually it punched a hole through a mistnet! I gave the bird to a friend who keeps birds while I tried to find out who had lost them.

It grew up to be a male Golden x Lady A....but showing mostly Lady A features..... I was cheating!
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