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Asheville, North Carolina, USA - Tanager? (1 Viewer)

Fandango739

GeoBird
United States
Seen September 11, 2021. Sorry for the poor photos.

Maybe a female Scarlet Tanager? Or someone else?

Thanks for the help!
 

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BIg bill + reddish bits = a tanager.
Reddish bits + date = female summer tanager (I think male scarlet tanager wouldn't show this combination?)
 
Not really sure which of the 2 tanagers it is: summer or scarlet. The bill colour isn't unequivocally (bright) horn / beige (summer), or grey (scarlet). The wings are very much against the light but even so appear dark (scarlet). The overall fairly dainty shape favours scarlet. On the other hand, the undertail coverts seem to extend a long way down the tail. It's not clear to me, but the wing tips may fall short of them—which favours summer.
 

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