earlytorise
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I live in Hong Kong, where Chinese Blackbird (Turdus mandarinus) is a common winter visitor and rare summer breeder.
In the unlikely event that an adult European Blackbird (Turdus merula) appeared in Hong Kong, would you be able to identify it by photos alone? I've long wondered about it and would welcome a concrete answer.
The only source I could find is the following article, which gives several ID criteria but I don't know how much evidence there is to support them
and when I look through photos of the two species on eBird, the only feature I can see to be definitve is that Chinese Blackbird sometimes shows bare parts behind and in front of the eye though they are sometimes not discernible in photos either, whereas they are not present on European Blackbirds.
Some male Chinese Blackbirds are duller and show a pale-ish throat, but others seem to have the same coloration as male European Blackbirds, so a glossy-black individual could be of either species.
Chinese Blackbird does appear bigger and bulkier than European Blackbird, on average, but apparent bulk is affected by posture and therefore variable even on a single bird.
Thanks and cheers
In the unlikely event that an adult European Blackbird (Turdus merula) appeared in Hong Kong, would you be able to identify it by photos alone? I've long wondered about it and would welcome a concrete answer.
The only source I could find is the following article, which gives several ID criteria but I don't know how much evidence there is to support them
and when I look through photos of the two species on eBird, the only feature I can see to be definitve is that Chinese Blackbird sometimes shows bare parts behind and in front of the eye though they are sometimes not discernible in photos either, whereas they are not present on European Blackbirds.
Some male Chinese Blackbirds are duller and show a pale-ish throat, but others seem to have the same coloration as male European Blackbirds, so a glossy-black individual could be of either species.
Chinese Blackbird does appear bigger and bulkier than European Blackbird, on average, but apparent bulk is affected by posture and therefore variable even on a single bird.
Thanks and cheers
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