Minor on Cyanistes caeruleus raddei Zarudny, 1908 and others (3 Viewers)

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Cyanistes caeruleus raddei Zarudny, 1908 OD 16, 1908 - Ornithologische Monatsberichte - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Buteo ferox raddei Loudon, 1910 OD no.5 (1911) - Proceedings of the International Ornithological Congress - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Motacilla flava raddei Härms, 1909 OD 17, 1909 - Ornithologische Monatsberichte - Biodiversity Heritage Library

Gewidmet dem Andenken an Dr. G. Radde weiand Direktor des Kaukasischen Museums.

Lanius raddei Dresser, 1888 OD 1888 - Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London - Biodiversity Heritage Library

Dr. Gustav Radde has lately sent tue for examination and comparison....

Falco Raddei, Finsch & Hartlaub 1870 OD Die Vogel Ost-Afrikas - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Muscicapa caucasica raddei R. Blasius 1901 OD Bd.4 (1901) - Naturgeschichte der Vögel Mitteleuropas - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Scolopax ( Gallinago ) gallinago raddei Buturlin, 1902 Limicolae of the Russian Empire , pt . 1 , p . 54 , 1902 (Not seen)
Remizus pendulinus Raddei Prazák, 1897 Bd.2 (1897) - Naturgeschichte der Vögel Mitteleuropas - Biodiversity Heritage Library (not sure if this is OD)
Megaloperdix raddei Bolle & Brehm 1873 OD ser.4:Jahrg.21=no.121-124 (1873) - Journal für Ornithologie - Biodiversity Heritage Library (footnote)
Panurus biarmicus raddei Prazák, 1897 OD ser.5:Jahrg.45 (1897) - Journal für Ornithologie - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Melanocorypha calandra raddei Zarudny and Loudon, 1904 OD Jahrg.15 (1904) - Ornithologisches Jahrbuch - Biodiversity Heritage Library
Cyanistes caeruleus raddei Zarudny, 1908 16, 1908 - Ornithologische Monatsberichte - Biodiversity Heritage Library

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds

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Radde's Warbler Phylloscopus schwarzi Radde, 1863
Radde's Accentor Prunella ocularis Radde, 1884
Shrike sp. Lanius raddei Dresser, 1888 NCR [Hybrid: Lanius colluriox Lanius isabellinus]
Calandra Lark ssp. Melanocorypha calandra raddei Zarudny & Loudon, 1904 NCR [JS Melanocorypha calandra psammochroa]
Blue Tit ssp. Cyanistes caeruleus raddei Zarudny, 1908
Yellow Wagtail ssp. Motacilla flava raddei Härms, 1909 NCR [JS Motacilla flava feldegg]
Common Snipe ssp. Gallinago gallinago raddei Buturlin, 1912 NCR [JS Gallinago gallinago gallinago]Gustav Ferdinand Richard Radde (1831–1903) was originally trained as an apothecary. Born in Danzig in Prussia (Gdansk, Poland), he settled in Russia (1852) . He participated in numerous expeditions through eastern Siberia, the Crimea, Caucasus, Trans-Caucasus and other regions of Russia, and also through Iran and Turkey, during which he gathered an extensive zoological, botanical and ethnographic collection. He came across a 'skulking warbler in a kitchen garden in the heart of Central Asia' (1856). He collected it and found it to be a hitherto undiscovered species. He settled in Georgia (1863) and founded the Caucasian museum in Tbilisi (1867). He wrote the 2-volume Reisen im Süden von Ost-Sibirien in den Jahren 1855–1859 (1862–1863) and Die Vogelwelt des Kaukasus (1884). He was the first person to give a detailed description of the flora of the Caucasus. He made two further journeys, both as part of the suite of members of the Russian Imperial family; to India and Japan (1895) with the Grand Duke Michael, and with other members of the family to North Africa (1897). Three reptiles, two mammals and an amphibian are named after him.

The Key to Scientific Names - Birds of the World

Species accounts for all the birds of the world.

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Gustav Ferdinand Richard Radde (1831-1903) Prussian naturalist, explorer in Siberia and the Caucasus (pub. Ornis Caucasica 1884) (syn. Buteo rufinus, syn. Circaetus gallicus, subsp. Cyanistes caeruleus, syn. Falco amurensis, syn. Ficedula semitorquata, syn. Gallinago gallinago, Lanius collurio x Lanius isabellinus hybrid, syn. Melanocorypha calandra psammochroma, syn. Motacilla flava feldegg, syn. Panurus biarmicus russicus, syn. Remiz pendulinus, syn. Tetraogallus caspius).

I just ask myself if there was an additional name Johannes as claimed in German Wikipedia and a (von) Gustav Radde – Wikipedia . The additional name is clamed here Flora of Japan (in English) or Authors of Plant Names or Radde, Gustav Ferdinand Richard Johannes von (1831-1903) on JSTOR as well. Of couse most of the time no Johannes like here heft 31 (1895) - Leopoldina - Biodiversity Heritage Library or here russian form Thematisches Lexikon zu Personen, Institutionen, Orten, Ereignissen

Radde, Gustav Ivanovitsch von (1831-1903) So die gebräuchliche russische Namensform von Gustav Ferdinand Richard Radde, namhafter Naturforscher und Geograph, siedelte 1863 nach Tbilisi (→ Tiflis) über, Begründer und Direktor des....

Short notice about his death heft 39 (1903) - Leopoldina - Biodiversity Heritage Library. See also Biographisches Jahrbuch und deutscher Nekrolog : Anton Bettleheim : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

 

[James Jobling]

Yes, Radde is given as Gustav Ferdinand Richard Johannes Radde in Mearns and Mearns, 2022, Biographies for Birdwatchers, revised & expanded ed., I, pp. 264-267.

 

[l_raty]

FamilySearch has the following, which is taken from a German baptism record (which unfortunately cannot be seen -- not even when you are logged in) :

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Name​	Gustav Richard Radde​
Sex​	Male​
Birth Date​	27 Nov 1831​
Father's Name​	Johann Jacob Radde​
Father's Sex​	Male​
Mother's Name​	Marie Elisabeth Eisenach​
Mother's Sex​	Female​
Event Type​	Christening​
Event Date​	8 Jan 1832​
Event Place​	Danzig, Westpreußen, Preußen, Deutschland​
Event Place (Original)​	Sankt Marien Kirche, Danzig Stadt, Westpreussen, Prussia​

It's his birth date, so I assume this must be him. No "Johannes" here, thus -- and, actually, not even a "Ferdinand"...

In Russian, he was indeed known as Gustav Ivanovich (von) Radde (Густа́в Ива́нович (фон) Ра́дде), where "Ivanovich" is a patronymic formed from his father's first name Johann. I can't tell for sure, but it would not be the first time that I would see a patronymic, introduced as part of the process of Russifying a western-style name, ending up de-Russified and unduly incorporated as an additional given name in a person's original name...

 

[PScofield]

Radde's Birth certificate gives only Gustav Richard Radde [Laurent bet me to it].

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX9X-B32

Weirdly there is a Gustav Radde supposedly born in Danzig in 1831 who died in Illinois on 25 May 1903 10 days after our man

 

[Taphrospilus]

Généalogie de Gustav Radde

Découvrez les origines familiales de Gustav Radde.

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What I do not understand here is that his wife Maria Von Brandt should have been born 1863 and the daughter Olga Gustawowna von Radde Радде 1873-1963. A very young mother. It looks like Johann Friedrich von Brandt – Wikipedia was the father of his wife. So Ольга Густавовна Радде-Фомина is his daughter.

 

[PScofield]

"Olga-Olena Gustavivna Radde wurde am 8. April 1876 in Tiflis, Russisches Reich
(jetzt Tbilisi, Georgien) geboren. Ihr Vater - Gustav Iwanowitsch Ferdinand Radde
(Danzig 1831 - Tiflis 1903.) Ihre Mutter - Marie Amalie Fjodorowna Radde - war die Tochter des berühmten
Paläozoologen und Zoogeographen, Akademiemitglieds an der AW in St. Petersburg,
Johann Friedrich Brandt (Jüterbog 1802 - Merreküll/Estl. 1879), eine hochgebildete
Frau, die mehrere Fremdsprachen beherrschte, ausgezeichnet zeichnen konnte und
ihrem zukünftigen Schwiegersohn, A. W. Fomin, die Pflanzen für seine "Illustrierte
Flora des Kaukasus" zu zeichnen half."

https://www.saeuling.de/fileadmin/user_upload/jahrresschriften/2018/C08-A._W._Fomin_und_Olga_Radde-Fomin-6.pdf

The birth date for Marie Amalie must be wrong as Brandt was married in 1831 and she was his eldest daughter see here

Brief von Johann Friedrich Brandt an Karl Ernst von Baer

Nachlass Baer, Karl Ernst. Brandt, Johann Friedrich: Brief von Johann Friedrich Brandt an Karl Ernst von Baer. Sankt Petersburg, 13.11.1856

digisam.ub.uni-giessen.de

Her sister Anna Wilhelmina Kuhn (Brandt) was born August 27, 1835.

 

[l_raty]

and she was his eldest daughter see here

So far as I can see, however, it cannot be confirmed from the letter itself that this "eldest daughter" was Marie Amalie. (In the letter -- second page, lines 3-4 -- Brandt merely writes "in Begleitung meiner ältesten Tochter"; the name was added by the person who wrote the abstract for the website.)

Here, Marie Amalie is given as Brandt's youngest daughter -- "Die jüngste Brandt-Tochter: Marie Amalie *1839 †1932".
Here, 1863 is presented as the date of her marriage, rather than the date of her birth.

(As an aside, Brandt's wife was -- as per their grave -- born in 1810, which also makes it rather unlikely (even if not impossible) that she might have given birth to a daughter as late as 1863.)

 

[mb1848]

That Grave site is odd grave clearly says birth of wife 28 April 1810 but if you click on the grave picture it leads to another page that says wife was born May 1811. Unless Russia was providing uterus transplants back then 52 is awfully old for the birth of Maria.