Minor on Leucocarbo ranfurlyi (Ogilvie-Grant, 1901) (1 Viewer)

[Taphrospilus]

Leucocarbo ranfurlyi (Ogilvie-Grant, 1901)

Lord Ranfurly was ably assisted by Professor Hutton, who accompanied him;

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds

Bounty Islands Shag Leucocarbo ranfurlyi Ogilvie-Grant, 1901 [Syn. Phalacrocorax ranfurlyi]
Uchter John Mark Knox, 5th Earl of Ranfurly (1865–1933), was Governor of New Zealand (1897–1904). He was requested to obtain bird specimens for the BMNH (1897). Canadian National Railways named a siding and town site 'Ranfurly' in his honour (1905), presumably as he crossed Canada by rail to embark in British Columbia for New Zealand as his lordship appears never to have set foot in Canada again.

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Uchter John Mark Knox 5th Earl of Ranfurly (1856-1933) British politician, courtier, Gov. of New Zealand 1897-1904, Director of St John Ambulance Service 1915-1919 (Leucocarbo).

Isn't he Irish e.g. Irish Migrants in New Zealand, 1840-1937 or Audrey Tennyson's Vice-regal Days ? But if I read Sir Uchter John Mark Knox, 5th Earl of Ranfurly GCMG PC (Ire) JP DL he seems indeed British. In New Zealand seems to be a place named after him (or someone else? Ranfurly, New Zealand - Wikipedia )

If I read https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22364058 I somehow doubt the Canadian story. Ok he was The Colonial Office List for ... Baron Ranfurly of Ramphorlie. But does that mean that he ever visited Canada? This title was given to the family in 1826 if Wikipedia is correct Earl of Ranfurly - Wikipedia .

P.S. @Paul. I do not insist on modern nationalities. I just want to understand the context why some claim Irish versus British. And note he was Privy Council of Ireland (what ever that mean).

 

[PScofield]

Mr Knox was part of the English-created aristocracy of Ulster which is British (for now). He was British-born and died and of British ancestry. Ranfurly township is named after Mr Knox as is the Ranfurly Shield (NZ greatest rugby prize)....

 

[Paul Clapham]

If I read https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22364058 I somehow doubt the Canadian story.

Did Mr Knox pass through Ranfurly on his way to New Zealand circa 1896?

No. The hamlet of Ranfurly was (and is) on the Canadian National line, which was not a transcontinental line at that point in time and would not become one until about 1905.

So why (or if) CN named an insignificant village (population 71 at the most recent census) after Mr Knox is a mystery -- Wikipedia has nothing to say about that.

 

[PScofield]

Just to clarify the Ranfurly I am talking about is in Central Otago, New Zealand formerly known as Eweburn and is unequivocally named after Knox

 

[Taphrospilus]

Sure remains the question why Geographical Place Names of Alberta: Ranfurly is claimed? I do not see the link to Canada.

 

[l_raty]

I do not see the link to Canada.

FWIW (I've no idea if this is relevant), "Lord Ranfurly" was at some point president of the "Atlantic, Quebec & Western", a small railway which ran from Gaspé to New Carlisle in Quebec, and which asked to be absorbed by the CNR in 1923, e.g. see : Railway Age.
Of course, Gaspesia is not exactly close to Alberta... But this suggests, in any case, that he had interests in Canada.

 

[Taphrospilus]

OK in this case I see the even the link to Canadian National Railways.

The two railways form a through line from Gaspe , P. Q. , to a connection with the Canadian National (Intercolonial) at Matapedia

So only this claim is at least questionable:

..presumably as he crossed Canada by rail to embark in British Columbia for New Zealand as his lordship appears never to have set foot in Canada again.

 

[Xenospiza]

FWIW (I've no idea if this is relevant), "Lord Ranfurly" was at some point president of the "Atlantic, Quebec & Western", a small railway which ran from Gaspé to New Carlisle in Quebec, and which asked to be absorbed by the CNR in 1923, e.g. see : Railway Age.
Of course, Gaspesia is not exactly close to Alberta... But this suggests, in any case, that he had interests in Canada.

Geographical Place Names of Alberta: Ranfurly

 

[Taphrospilus]

Sure see #5.