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Pipit Confirmation - Wales - UK - May (1 Viewer)
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Alexander Stöhr
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Hello,
I agree with you, the first two birds are Meadow Pipits for me, too.
Do pictures 3 and 4 show the same bird? Maybe they are two birds, by slight differences in streaking to the breast, but its difficult to be sure imo.
Both show yellow base to bill that should make this (or these?) Meadow Pipits.
More, narrow (not blop/rounded/broad shaped) streaks to the center of the breast in the last picture is good for Meadow Pipit and bad for Tree Pipit.
The breast streaking of the bird in the third picture is more difficult, but it isnt no ID-book Tree Pipit, but yes, breast is within variation for both.
But the bill colour makes ID possible imo. And better wait for confirmation or correction. Thanks!
I agree with you, the first two birds are Meadow Pipits for me, too.
Do pictures 3 and 4 show the same bird? Maybe they are two birds, by slight differences in streaking to the breast, but its difficult to be sure imo.
Both show yellow base to bill that should make this (or these?) Meadow Pipits.
More, narrow (not blop/rounded/broad shaped) streaks to the center of the breast in the last picture is good for Meadow Pipit and bad for Tree Pipit.
The breast streaking of the bird in the third picture is more difficult, but it isnt no ID-book Tree Pipit, but yes, breast is within variation for both.
But the bill colour makes ID possible imo. And better wait for confirmation or correction. Thanks!
Yes, all Meadow Pipits.
Original PaulE
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Could the second pic be a Water Pipit, very grey, not much streaking white underneath? Though not much of a super and bill nit strong enough?
Alexander Stöhr
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Hello Paul,
interesting question. But after looking at the picture again, I think Pat might well be right and artefacts shifts this bird towards a Water Pipit.
But more pictures could well help, because I realized, that some features, I used for ID as a Meadow Pipit, could well be explained by artefacts and picture quality, too:
Do you have more pictures? But if forced, I would still opt for a Meadow Pipit. Maybe its one of those "Island birds" with all peach/warm buffish-orange hues lost due to waer and bleaching?
interesting question. But after looking at the picture again, I think Pat might well be right and artefacts shifts this bird towards a Water Pipit.
But more pictures could well help, because I realized, that some features, I used for ID as a Meadow Pipit, could well be explained by artefacts and picture quality, too:
- the appearant pale greenish wing-panel, that I thought to be a feature of Meadow, can be shown by Water Pipit too (at least in pictures, see: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yQQrLzlv...VnkQQCLcBGAs/s1600/WaterPipitColyCom17118.jpg from Winter Water Pipit ID
- pale, bubblegum-greyish legs. But I am not confident anymore, they can be seen. But I cant loose the feeling, (nearly) blackish ones would be visible here (?)
Do you have more pictures? But if forced, I would still opt for a Meadow Pipit. Maybe its one of those "Island birds" with all peach/warm buffish-orange hues lost due to waer and bleaching?
The second picture looks like a fairly normal, somewhat grey and worn Meadow Pipit. Also, keep in mind that Water Pipit in Wales in May would be extremely unusual. Meadow Pipits are extremely variable, particularly in spring.