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Grasshopper or Cricket? (1 Viewer)
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Eddie
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Hi Jen,
I would say that this is a species of grasshopper as the antennae are quite short. Crickets generally have antennae which are at least body length and often somewhere in the region of one and a half body lengths. Wouldn't like to pin it down to a species although I suspect someone can.
Eddie
I would say that this is a species of grasshopper as the antennae are quite short. Crickets generally have antennae which are at least body length and often somewhere in the region of one and a half body lengths. Wouldn't like to pin it down to a species although I suspect someone can.
Eddie
Joern Lehmhus
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If you enlarge the pic, you see that the antennae are not short but long, actually.they only are very thin and not that well to see at that pic.
It is a bush cricket, but from the pic I am not sure, which. I would go for either Phaneroptera falcata, some other Phaneroptera spec. or perhaps more likely Ruspolia nitidula (large conehead). Sorry, but for the first one, I do only have the german name (Grosse Sichelschrecke)
Joern
It is a bush cricket, but from the pic I am not sure, which. I would go for either Phaneroptera falcata, some other Phaneroptera spec. or perhaps more likely Ruspolia nitidula (large conehead). Sorry, but for the first one, I do only have the german name (Grosse Sichelschrecke)
Joern
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Joern Lehmhus
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Hi Surreybirder,
oak bush cricket shouldd be winged in both sexes, and it does look more stretched than this one. By the ovipositor you can see that the insect on your photo is an adult female, but wingless. I would go for a Leptophyes species, perhaps L. punctatissima, the Speckled Bush Cricket.
Joern
oak bush cricket shouldd be winged in both sexes, and it does look more stretched than this one. By the ovipositor you can see that the insect on your photo is an adult female, but wingless. I would go for a Leptophyes species, perhaps L. punctatissima, the Speckled Bush Cricket.
Joern
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Thanks, Joern. A friend of mine identified it so I'll pass on your comments.
(Could the lack of wings mean that it's not a full adult?)
(Could the lack of wings mean that it's not a full adult?)
Joern Lehmhus
Well-known member
Not with a fully developed ovipositor as in this photo, I am afraid. This ovipositor (this sable-like thing at the insects end) clearly sais it is an adult female.
Joern
Joern
steve covey
Jack of all Orders - Master of None
Hi Joern/Surreybirder,
my hand's up as the guilty party;-) I overlooked the obvious regarding shape of ovipositor. I just thought it was a late nymph stage of Oak Bush-cricket. But, of course, you are correct Joern it is an adult female Speckled Bush-cricket
Funnily enough one appeared outside my study window last night [attracted to the light?]. I am looking at it now and will attempt a pic and upload it if successful.
BTW the illustration in my orthoptera guide shows the dorsal area quite dark rather than green with a narrow brownish line!
Cheers
Steve.
my hand's up as the guilty party;-) I overlooked the obvious regarding shape of ovipositor. I just thought it was a late nymph stage of Oak Bush-cricket. But, of course, you are correct Joern it is an adult female Speckled Bush-cricket
Funnily enough one appeared outside my study window last night [attracted to the light?]. I am looking at it now and will attempt a pic and upload it if successful.
BTW the illustration in my orthoptera guide shows the dorsal area quite dark rather than green with a narrow brownish line!
Cheers
Steve.
steve covey
Jack of all Orders - Master of None
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Joern Lehmhus
Well-known member
Hi Ken,
Looks like an unusually colored female of Dark Bush Cricket (Pholidoptera griseoaptera) to me, but I check with my literature to be sure.
Here they are less reddish brown in most cases, but colour can vary greatly in this species.
Joern
Looks like an unusually colored female of Dark Bush Cricket (Pholidoptera griseoaptera) to me, but I check with my literature to be sure.
Here they are less reddish brown in most cases, but colour can vary greatly in this species.
Joern
Joern Lehmhus
Well-known member
Hi Ken,
Well, after comparison of photos and literature with your pic, Dark Bush Cricket really seems to be the best fit...allthough I am not 100% sure.Lets say 99%.
Nice pic though.
Joern
Well, after comparison of photos and literature with your pic, Dark Bush Cricket really seems to be the best fit...allthough I am not 100% sure.Lets say 99%.
Nice pic though.
Joern
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Thanks, Joern. Fancy going all the way to Switzerland and the only species I photograph is one that occurs in my garden at home!
Sorry to be so long replying. Moved house on 30.9
Ken
Sorry to be so long replying. Moved house on 30.9
Ken
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