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Camel Estuary, Cornwall (1 Viewer)

Short video of the Shelduck family at Guineaport yesterday evening HERE. It was starting to get dark so the quality is not the best but I hope you enjoy it anyway!
The mute swans were in the same spot today with their 6 cygnets that are growing rapidly.
At Egloshayle this morning, birds included a pergrine falcon, 6+ siskin.
 
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Amble Marshes this morning, a Sedge Warbler bearing BTO ring ending 68, moulting drake Garganey, female Common Pochard and 2 Lapwing.
 

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At Three Holes Cross, yesterday, a female Montagu's Harrier flew across the road, and hunted briefly in fields before drifting towards Chapel Amble.
 
24 12 2010 Dinham Flats.
[/QUOTE] At least 3 different colour ringed Black-Tailed Godwit this morning! the two new to me=(Right leg above knee, Blue. Left leg above knee, Red over Yellow) (Right leg above knee, Orange over Light Green over Orange. Left leg above knee, Orange over Yellow over Light Green. BTO Type below knee)[/QUOTE]

(The first bird above, ringed as juv Montrose Basin, NE Scotland 18 10 2009)
 
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Dinham Flats this morning, birds included Common Shelduck brood of 5 ducklings, 10 Dunlin, 2 Bar-tailed Godwit, 12 Whimbrel, 9 Curlew and 2 Black Swan.
 
Amble Marshes this evening, 1 Spoonbill, 1 moulting drake Garganey (photo) 1 Common Pochard, 2 Tufted Duck, 1 immature Peregrine Falcon.
One Red Fox showing eye injury (photo)
 

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Redpoll types.

Much has been written and discussed on the subject of ‘plumage variation within the Redpoll group’, almost all involving winter flocks or bird table situations. While watching a pair of ‘Lesser cabaret type’ Redpolls on territory at a undisclosed site in woodland quite close to the Camel 20 05 2012 I noticed several individual Redpolls loosely associating with the pair, showing much white to rump and very little dark streaking to their under-parts recalling ‘Common/Mealy flammea types’, all showing pale-ish rear scapulars the palest bird (first photo left only) showing a clean white rump and unstreaked undertail coverts reminiscent of a small ‘Arctic hornemann’s type’. I see nothing wrong with describing the different Redpoll phenotypes as ‘types’ there is genuine variation within Redpoll group and some taxonomists have always preferred to regard them all as one variable species (e.g. Salomonsen 1928) The latest mtDNA research suggests that they were correct with insufficient evidence found for any subdivision of the Redpoll group, nevertheless much interesting variation in size, structure and colour does exist, I am only a bird-watcher not a geneticist only observing the observable, never a avid lister I see nothing less interesting or dismissive in a particular observable phenotype, simply because it may be lacking the convenient man made status of a species. Faced with at least two Common/Mealy types and one Arctic type all three probable females, at the end of May, all appearing to be approximately the same size though shorter necked with fluffier plumage (not obviously larger than Lesser types, the very pale individuals always look slightly larger to me) strongly suggested faded or bleached out Lesser types (at this point I cannot definitely rule this possibility out) when comparing the three paler individuals close to the normal Lesser types, their tertials and flight feathers appeared noticeably more abraded almost lacking any white fringes in sharp contrast to the much fresher breeding Lesser pair. Having had limited experience with summer Redpolls I can easily understand the normal weathering and fading of flight feathers, but had assumed that all types and sexes were at their ‘palest’ in fresh plumage, with the tendency for the paler tips to wear off in spring exposing darker areas, such as, the males acquiring breeding rose-pink on throat, breast and rump. I must stress that the undisclosed site is definitely not a bird table situation; the birds are apparently drawn to the breeding pair very occasionally (most often early morning) to avoid disturbing breeding birds they can only be safely observed from a nearby footpath. At least two individual Common types still at the site this morning. Bird guides have reported Common type Redpolls from Orkney and Donegal already this morning suggesting that it may still be a little early to discount the possibility of late migrants. For anyone interested a full description of each individual with all relevant photos will be written up at a later date.
 

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Amble Marshes this morning, birds included female Gadwall with 7 ducklings, drake Garganey, female Common Pochard and 2 Lapwing.
 

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Amble Marshes this morning, birds included female Gadwall with 7 ducklings

This appears to be the first documented breeding of Gadwall in the county. Although breeding was suspected in 2005 and 2008 at the same site and mixed pairings were noted there in both 2008 and 2010, (with the former producing two young).
 
This appears to be the first documented breeding of Gadwall in the county. Although breeding was suspected in 2005 and 2008 at the same site and mixed pairings were noted there in both 2008 and 2010, (with the former producing two young).

Great news, we had two pairs locally here in Braunton til quite late in the spring, but so far no apparent breeding. We have however had a pair of Pochard with seven ducklings. Pretty sure it's a first for north devon.
 
This appears to be the first documented breeding of Gadwall in the county. Although breeding was suspected in 2005 and 2008 at the same site and mixed pairings were noted there in both 2008 and 2010, (with the former producing two young).

Great news, we had two pairs locally here in Braunton til quite late in the spring, but so far no apparent breeding. We have however had a pair of Pochard with seven ducklings. Pretty sure it's a first for north devon.
 
Much has been written and discussed on the subject of ‘plumage variation within the Redpoll group’, almost all involving winter flocks or bird table situations. While watching a pair of ‘Lesser cabaret type’ Redpolls on territory at a undisclosed site in woodland quite close to the Camel 20 05 2012 I noticed several individual Redpolls loosely associating with the pair, showing much white to rump and very little dark streaking to their under-parts recalling ‘Common/Mealy flammea types’, all showing pale-ish rear scapulars the palest bird (first photo left only) showing a clean white rump and unstreaked undertail coverts reminiscent of a small ‘Arctic hornemann’s type’. I see nothing wrong with describing the different Redpoll phenotypes as ‘types’ there is genuine variation within Redpoll group and some taxonomists have always preferred to regard them all as one variable species (e.g. Salomonsen 1928) The latest mtDNA research suggests that they were correct with insufficient evidence found for any subdivision of the Redpoll group, nevertheless much interesting variation in size, structure and colour does exist, I am only a bird-watcher not a geneticist only observing the observable, never a avid lister I see nothing less interesting or dismissive in a particular observable phenotype, simply because it may be lacking the convenient man made status of a species. Faced with at least two Common/Mealy types and one Arctic type all three probable females, at the end of May, all appearing to be approximately the same size though shorter necked with fluffier plumage (not obviously larger than Lesser types, the very pale individuals always look slightly larger to me) strongly suggested faded or bleached out Lesser types (at this point I cannot definitely rule this possibility out) when comparing the three paler individuals close to the normal Lesser types, their tertials and flight feathers appeared noticeably more abraded almost lacking any white fringes in sharp contrast to the much fresher breeding Lesser pair. Having had limited experience with summer Redpolls I can easily understand the normal weathering and fading of flight feathers, but had assumed that all types and sexes were at their ‘palest’ in fresh plumage, with the tendency for the paler tips to wear off in spring exposing darker areas, such as, the males acquiring breeding rose-pink on throat, breast and rump. I must stress that the undisclosed site is definitely not a bird table situation; the birds are apparently drawn to the breeding pair very occasionally (most often early morning) to avoid disturbing breeding birds they can only be safely observed from a nearby footpath. At least two individual Common types still at the site this morning. Bird guides have reported Common type Redpolls from Orkney and Donegal already this morning suggesting that it may still be a little early to discount the possibility of late migrants. For anyone interested a full description of each individual with all relevant photos will be written up at a later date.
All males this morning at the site with at least 7 Lesser type and one Common Type (photo first left)
 

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