Thanks Lee!
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Zeiss SF 8X32 after 8 weeks of use... (1 Viewer)
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Thanks Ron! If the EL is that much less expensive to me it would be a no-brainer.
You're welcome!
I think you'll like them. Really they have been a pleasure to use.
Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
Hi John (from the Fuji thread) - here is the link (It is under the "Zeiss Experience" sub-forum - right next to Jimi Hendrix !
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9. Industry 4.0: Simplifying Service via Data Matrix Code
Rapid product tracking in a digital assembly department
and in customer service Perceptive observers have already discovered the inconspicuous detail that adorns the inside of the new ZEISS Victory SF 32 in addition to the familiar serial number. This “Data Matrix” contains the exact material...
www.birdforum.net
Chuck - you might find this very interesting.
Does your unit have this QR code as shown ?
Do you have a reader (app) on your phone ? and can you tell us what information it contains that is made available to the customer ?
Thanks !
Chosun
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NoSpringChicken
Well-known member
I have just checked some retailers' current prices and a couple of them have now reduced the price to £1849. Perhaps they realised that they were looking rather expensive against the Swarovski ELs. They are still about £2065 at most dealers though. It's no long such an obvious 'no-brainer' but there is still a substantial price difference.
Ron
I actually thought it was just the opposite. I thought the SF view was very nice...very Leicaish...
Absolutely!Hi John (from the Fuji thread) - here is the link (It is under the "Zeiss Experience" sub-forum - right next to Jimi Hendrix !
9. Industry 4.0: Simplifying Service via Data Matrix Code
Rapid product tracking in a digital assembly department and in customer service Perceptive observers have already discovered the inconspicuous detail that adorns the inside of the new ZEISS Victory SF 32 in addition to the familiar serial number. This “Data Matrix” contains the exact material...
Chuck - you might find this very interesting.
Does your unit have this QR code as shown ?
Do you have a reader (app) on your phone ? and can you tell us what information it contains that is made available to the customer ?
Thanks !
Chosun
BASICALLY you scan that QR code and Safari will open up Zeiss Consumer Products webpage...
Zeiss Consumer Products
That's basically it!
Well, I am finding that as I inevitably grow older my EL SV 10X42 are getting a bit heavy. Also, the first and only time I looked through an EL SV 8X32 I was completely blown away, it was if I had 8X eyes. I am excitedly looking forward to my first Zeiss binocular.
b_reynolds_ak
Well-known member
My pair of 8x32 SF's also have a slightly more noticeable click on the left eyecup than the right as well.
That was exactly me the first time I used an SV 8X32. I had always been a hunter so I "knew" there was no way a 32mm binocular could equal its 42mm counterpart. Now I use 32-35mm binoculars more than 42mms. I looking forward to hearing what you think about it!
Me too Chuck. For some obscure reason I looked on 32mm models as 'not grown-up binos, probably for children'. Getting an FL 8x32 to reduce weight and bulk when carrying DSLR, 3 lenses and a tripod, was a slap in the face. Now, like you, I am using 32mm more than 42mm.
Lee
First impressions.
I spent a short afternoon with my new SF 8X32 and found the lighter weight to make a tremendous difference from my EL SV 10X42. They didn't make my neck uncomfortable. For the last six years the EL SV was my only binocular, and it was beginning to feel heavy.
Eye placement is much fussier than what I am used to, but monkeying with the IPD and eye cup height helped. I can't look around the field of view the same, but I seem to be adapting to that rather quickly.
The focus wheel fools me because I am used to reaching for the Swarovski wheel. The Zeiss wheel is indeed in a spot where the finger falls naturally upon it. Focusing is easier and less critical, due (I guess) to greater depth of field. (or is it depth of focus?)
The larger field of view certainly is impressive over a pond with assorted ducks, geese, mergansers, seagulls and so on.
The images are absolutely magnificent. The colors, shadings, contrast, and detail resolution are all breathtaking. I am convinced that I saw shades and details that I had never seen before, and the images have a certain "crispness" that is a new thing. I saw whites as pure and almost blindingly white on Canada Geese and male Hooded Mergansers, and I marveled at the subtle details in the patterns of a female Mallard. Six years of coatings development plus a different manufacturer? I saw detail in the breast of a perched Red-tailed Hawk, that I am convinced I never saw before. (I know no two birds are the same, but I have looked at this bird before, while it was perched in that spot.)
The field is quite flat enough for me, and I was not aware of any significant loss of sharpness at or near the edges. If it was there, it didn't bug me.
At no time did I have any impression whatsoever that I was seeing less because the image was smaller. I really wasn't aware of that.
I think my brain is still learning to process what my eyes see in the images from the new binocular.
None of this is in any way intended to disparage my Swarovski glasses, and I am still getting used to the Zeiss, but they are definitely keepers.
If I had to summarize, I would say that the Zeiss glasses are "easier to see with."
An afterthought: There was a definite impression that there was absolutely nothing between me and what I was looking at. It was as if I was seeing directly with my own eyeballs. I'm having trouble expressing what an experience it was. It wasn't like looking through an instrument. I'm floundering here.
I spent a short afternoon with my new SF 8X32 and found the lighter weight to make a tremendous difference from my EL SV 10X42. They didn't make my neck uncomfortable. For the last six years the EL SV was my only binocular, and it was beginning to feel heavy.
Eye placement is much fussier than what I am used to, but monkeying with the IPD and eye cup height helped. I can't look around the field of view the same, but I seem to be adapting to that rather quickly.
The focus wheel fools me because I am used to reaching for the Swarovski wheel. The Zeiss wheel is indeed in a spot where the finger falls naturally upon it. Focusing is easier and less critical, due (I guess) to greater depth of field. (or is it depth of focus?)
The larger field of view certainly is impressive over a pond with assorted ducks, geese, mergansers, seagulls and so on.
The images are absolutely magnificent. The colors, shadings, contrast, and detail resolution are all breathtaking. I am convinced that I saw shades and details that I had never seen before, and the images have a certain "crispness" that is a new thing. I saw whites as pure and almost blindingly white on Canada Geese and male Hooded Mergansers, and I marveled at the subtle details in the patterns of a female Mallard. Six years of coatings development plus a different manufacturer? I saw detail in the breast of a perched Red-tailed Hawk, that I am convinced I never saw before. (I know no two birds are the same, but I have looked at this bird before, while it was perched in that spot.)
The field is quite flat enough for me, and I was not aware of any significant loss of sharpness at or near the edges. If it was there, it didn't bug me.
At no time did I have any impression whatsoever that I was seeing less because the image was smaller. I really wasn't aware of that.
I think my brain is still learning to process what my eyes see in the images from the new binocular.
None of this is in any way intended to disparage my Swarovski glasses, and I am still getting used to the Zeiss, but they are definitely keepers.
If I had to summarize, I would say that the Zeiss glasses are "easier to see with."
An afterthought: There was a definite impression that there was absolutely nothing between me and what I was looking at. It was as if I was seeing directly with my own eyeballs. I'm having trouble expressing what an experience it was. It wasn't like looking through an instrument. I'm floundering here.
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james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
Transparency is generally used for what you are describing, and I get it.
jcnguyen09
Well-known member
My Nikon 8x32 HG LX series has been laying around in my car permanently. Don't remember exactly since when...to me, this old great 8x32 pair by far the most used binoculars out of all I have. However, I always pack at least a 8x42 and a 12or15x on the trips.
Just as an addendum, the 8X32 SF has revealed to me that Mallards are quite beautiful ducks.
Before i just dismissed them as "Oh yeah, there are Mallards there too, now I pause to look at them, the females too. There is definitely more of "something" in the images that I did not see with the EL SV.
I think when folks remark that "The novelty" of a new glass "has worn off" that what is happening is that out eye/brain system has accommodated to the new image(s) and that has become the norm, so the eye/brain expects it and is no longer surprised by it.
Just my crackpot theory, which is pure speculation.
Before i just dismissed them as "Oh yeah, there are Mallards there too, now I pause to look at them, the females too. There is definitely more of "something" in the images that I did not see with the EL SV.
I think when folks remark that "The novelty" of a new glass "has worn off" that what is happening is that out eye/brain system has accommodated to the new image(s) and that has become the norm, so the eye/brain expects it and is no longer surprised by it.
Just my crackpot theory, which is pure speculation.
Gijs van Ginkel
Well-known member
Maljuno, post 78,
There is certainly something in the 8xSF 32, that you will not see in the 8x32 SV: the SF has a blue ring around the edges of the FOV when you look at a perfectly white surface.
Gijs van Ginkel
There is certainly something in the 8xSF 32, that you will not see in the 8x32 SV: the SF has a blue ring around the edges of the FOV when you look at a perfectly white surface.
Gijs van Ginkel
