Gijs van Ginkel
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The Westinghouse and Bausch and Lomb 6x30 porro army binoculars were waterproof as I found out by immersing them in a bucket filled with water.
Gijs van Ginkel
Gijs van Ginkel
.... well, there were probably a lot of annoyed birders standing on a rainy, misty trail in Costa Rica with fogged up optics and internal condensation
People "managed", but that doesn't mean it wasn't a real problem, or else this would not have become a feature that is heavily marketed
I believe the 16 mm figure; with my thin-frame eyeglasses I generally need 14-15 mm of eye relief to see the entire field of view of a bino, and with the Leica 7x35 and the eye-cups down I can get blackouts if my eye-placement isn't perfect. I put a 1.6 mm o-ring under each eye-cup to lift them up a bit, and that reduced the eye relief to a distance that's perfect for me. A really sweet bino, in my opinion; light, compact, and a beautiful view.Hi Bear,
FWIW, the listed eye relief (for all 3 models) is 16 mm
And in his review of the 7x35, Roger Vine indicated that’s the approximate usable ER
See posts #134 and 139 earlier in this thread
In contrast, Canip/Pinac gives the useable ER as:
13.5 mm for the 7x35, and
14 mm for the 10x40
See: https://binocular.ch/leica-trinovid-7x35-2019-retrovid/
and: https://binocular.ch/leica-trinovid-10x40-2019-retrovid/
And also see Chuck’s comments in the original post comparing the ER of the 7x35 to that of the 7x42 Ultravid
John
Oh wow, that old green armored 7x35 goes back a long ways.Just an aside but as I was when registering my 7x35 I has a choice between two models - the leather covered version and a BA Green armoured version. I wonder if that means they are bringing a new version out, or does it refer to the original one from way back???
Sorry to quote myself, I went back and scanned the 170 conversations here, to make sure I hadn't missed this comparison. If one were looking for a 7X experience, (not something I ever imagined I would, but you all have me curious), and wanting to find the best choice, which of these? Why? ThanksThinking about some of the content in the the above Ultravid 8x50 UVHD+ discussion (page 4), I have a question that seems more appropriate here. How would those of you with experience of both, compare the 7x35 Retrovid and the 7x42 UVHD+?
This 100%. I’ve made the exact same comparison to providing multiple tips with IEM’s.It's interesting to see here (and in other discussions) the divide between those who prefer narrow and those who prefer wide eyecups. I definitely prefer narrow eyecups but I can understand that others may not. I wonder why manufacturers don't provide different eyecups with their bins, in the same way hi-end in-ear IEM/earphones come with a whole range of tips to suit different sized/shaped ears? Or would that optically be problematic?? It also seems to me as the top end binoculars are optically so close to each, that ergonomics is now a very important factor when choosing between models.
I don't recall a dedicated thread on this, though it's an appropriate question: same magnification, same FOV. If you search "retrovid" and "7x42" on this site you'll find some scattered comments. I think I recall Eitan saying that if it weren't for the narrow eyecups he would trade his 7x42 for the 7x35, but others might differ. The Retrovid is less obviously a birder's model (slow focus, not waterproof) and I think has been said to have more CA; it might be more difficult to resell (except perhaps here?) but I imagine either one would satisfy curiosity about that 7x magic (a notion that strikes me as obsolete after seeing the 8x NL).Sorry to quote myself, I went back and scanned the 170 conversations here, to make sure I hadn't missed this comparison. If one were looking for a 7X experience, (not something I ever imagined I would, but you all have me curious), and wanting to find the best choice, which of these? Why? Thanks
I'm going to always recommend the sure thing....and that's the Ultravid HD+. Long history with few issues. Fully armored. Fully waterproof. Closer close-focus(matters to some). Larger focus wheel especially useful with gloves.Sorry to quote myself, I went back and scanned the 170 conversations here, to make sure I hadn't missed this comparison. If one were looking for a 7X experience, (not something I ever imagined I would, but you all have me curious), and wanting to find the best choice, which of these? Why? Thanks
GTom
They survived 14 days of 24/7 dust in Namibia without any problems.These Leicas are not waterproof. Does it mean they are overtly susceptible to fungus on lens/ prism surface? How well protected are they against dust?
Arijit