Biscuitman
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Can anyone give me a simple way to distinguish between Great and Lesser Black Backed Gulls apart from size?
Just look at the bill structure of GBBGULL, a very deep and heavy affair, LBBGull is almost dainty by comparison.Can anyone give me a simple way to distinguish between Great and Lesser Black Backed Gulls apart from size?
I (very very strongly) recommend that you buy a field guide.Can anyone give me a simple way to distinguish between . . .
Great video. Thank you.
The BTO YouTube has lots of good id videos.Great video. Thank you.
nobody buys field guides these days ( joking)....rather post and wait for a n other to identify itI (very very strongly) recommend that you buy a field guide.
I wish it was a joke! Trouble is that people first look for advice they can get for free, go straight to the internet (like what one does for anything these days), and - because it gets them somewhere - think that's the way to do it. What they then miss out on is the huuuge amount that you can learn from a field guide - preferably a printed one - a book! The boon for usability and utility is such that you just can't imagine if you've never had one. Modern beginner-birders are thus so so losing out.nobody buys field guides these days ( joking)
Apologies for asking too simple a question. I do have field guides but sometimes looking in a book doesn't always compensate for actual expertise.I wish it was a joke! Trouble is that people first look for advice they can get for free, go straight to the internet (like what one does for anything these days), and - because it gets them somewhere - think that's the way to do it. What they then miss out on is the huuuge amount that you can learn from a field guide - preferably a printed one - a book! The boon for usability and utility is such that you just can't imagine if you've never had one. Modern beginner-birders are thus so so losing out.
Not aimed at you at all! More of a general rant about people thinking they can ID birds simply by googling. But never hesitate to askApologies for asking too simple a question. I do have field guides . . .
I do. Most birders I know also get a new one for each part of the world they visit, so they can learn about the birds they hope to see in advance and recognise some when they get there. I have a bookshelf or 3 full. Most birders not only have them but annotate them to add other info. Also, I have to quite a few places around the world, and most rangers, or nature guides have several, covering many many topics. More and more people are downloading birding apps, so they always have something with them.nobody buys field guides these days ( joking)....rather post and wait for a n other to identify it
There is nothing simple about Gull recognition. It is a specialist subject that many fear to take on. MakePlansjer_Engelsk.pdf is a useful quick guide made extremely simple and worth a look.Apologies for asking too simple a question. I do have field guides but sometimes looking in a book doesn't always compensate for actual expertise.
So I wasn't looking for free advice, just some interaction with other birders.
But I respect your view all the same.
I’ve been into this for about a year now and as a bit of a newbie I totally get this. Honestly, i’ve pretty much avoided gulls until recently and I struggle with these two birds at the moment unless they are close up and obvious. But I know it will become more and more obvious with practice.Apologies for asking too simple a question. I do have field guides but sometimes looking in a book doesn't always compensate for actual expertise.
So I wasn't looking for free advice, just some interaction with other birders.
But I respect your view all the same.
Not always as clear cut as some of these suggestions. It's not uncommon for LBBG to have fleshy coloured legs in winter though true breeding adults have bright yellow legs.Size, Great-black backed Gull is enormous.
The legs on GBBG are pink, those of LBBG are yellow.
GBBG has a bill like a meat cleaver.
The mantle and wings on an adult GBBG are darker than those on the adult LBBG in Britain.
David