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Gull and tern ID help please, central Iraq, Dec 22, 2022 (1 Viewer)

bhutjoe

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Hello, correction or in best case confirmation sought of my IDs of a couple of gulls and 1 tern seen in Lake Habaniya, Anbar Province, Iraq on Dec 22, 2022 at about 2pm. The lake is quite large (though drought has changed its shore line quite a bit) surrounded by desert. The birds shown were all on or around sandbars fairly far from shore.

Apologies for the quality of the photos.

Photos 1312 & 1313: Slender billed gulls?, based on bill colour and shape, and head having a pulled look as if someone grabbed the bill and pulled it:) They legs seem more yellow than red but that seems to match those in some birds photographed in December.

Photo 17df: Caspian tern? but at this time of year would the black cap be more streaked and the bill seems more orangish than blood red. But on range the only other terns are gull billed (and this one's bill is not black) and several types of marsh terns and common tern. I think the larger gulls are Armenian but a better photo (I hope) of one follows and the smaller ones black-headed in winter plumage.

Photo 17de: Armenian gull, the large one with its wings spread looking like just landed or getting ready for take off. ID based on underwing pattern, especially the white primary tip. I think that excludes less black-backed gull and others but I of course am not sure about that:). Black headed gulls surrounding it and I have no idea of the gull flying in the upper left of the frame.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to look at these. All comments and corrections much appreciated.
steve
 

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Agree with Slender-billed Gulls & Caspian Tern. Will pass on last gull.
With what looks like a full black subterminal band and a white tip it looks like it could be Armenian.

However the head shape doesn't seem to have the more rounded shape I would expect of that species.
 
Thank you very much Aeshna and Muppit. I have yet to get a good enough photo to confirm Armenian gull, most frustrating lol. Thanks for your confirmation on the the first two birds and I guess I will keep trying for the Armenian:)
all the best]
steve
 
Thank you very much Aeshna and Muppit. I have yet to get a good enough photo to confirm Armenian gull, most frustrating lol. Thanks for your confirmation on the the first two birds and I guess I will keep trying for the Armenian:)
all the best]
steve
I have to admit that the wing tip pattern also looks good for Armenian - extensive black and only one mirror.

Looking on a bigger screen (only had my phone earlier) the head shape looks better, but the angle is not so good to tell the true shape.
 
Hello, correction or in best case confirmation sought of my IDs of a couple of gulls and 1 tern seen in Lake Habaniya, Anbar Province, Iraq on Dec 22, 2022 at about 2pm. The lake is quite large (though drought has changed its shore line quite a bit) surrounded by desert. The birds shown were all on or around sandbars fairly far from shore.

Apologies for the quality of the photos.

Photos 1312 & 1313: Slender billed gulls?, based on bill colour and shape, and head having a pulled look as if someone grabbed the bill and pulled it:) They legs seem more yellow than red but that seems to match those in some birds photographed in December.

Photo 17df: Caspian tern? but at this time of year would the black cap be more streaked and the bill seems more orangish than blood red. But on range the only other terns are gull billed (and this one's bill is not black) and several types of marsh terns and common tern. I think the larger gulls are Armenian but a better photo (I hope) of one follows and the smaller ones black-headed in winter plumage.

Photo 17de: Armenian gull, the large one with its wings spread looking like just landed or getting ready for take off. ID based on underwing pattern, especially the white primary tip. I think that excludes less black-backed gull and others but I of course am not sure about that:). Black headed gulls surrounding it and I have no idea of the gull flying in the upper left of the frame.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to look at these. All comments and corrections much appreciated.
steve
Hi. Pic 4, by the shape and colouring of the bill, and the mirror on the wingtip, I'd go for an Armenian gull?
 
Thank you Harry for that. Most appreciated. I have been finding it a little difficult to confirm Armenian vs Lesser black-backed here.
All the best
steve
 
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