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New Swarovski 7x Binocular (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter John A Roberts
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tenex
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Nope. AFOV is stated as 52° for 8x25, 51° for 7x21, just as they all seem to be except the Victory. And once again, tiny eyecups aren't going to work well for those who don't wear glasses. But there does still seem to be a market for a true pocket instrument, and having switched from 8x20 to 25, it makes a lot of sense to fill back in with 7x21 instead of 8x20 again.
jan van daalen
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Hi Tim,
That's the choice.
Lightweight 21mm or weight like the CL25s. If the latter became the choice Swarovski just had to bring a 7x to that line.
Being a 7x man myself, Christmas came early this year,
Jan
Yes and maybe they could have tweaked out a larger ocular lens for easier eye placement too.
Stevenkelby
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Yeah, why didn't they just go with 42mm objectives? Much brighter!
ticl2184
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Nah.... They should have gone with a 70mm objective ...
Even brighter....
John A Roberts
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Hi Steven and ticl,
Funny that you should say that . .
See an Optisan Britec 7x21 that grows up to be a 10x32 - though of course much bigger would be much better!
Thanks to Norm for the idea in post #6 at: Optics for a sea kayaker?
John
Funny that you should say that . .
See an Optisan Britec 7x21 that grows up to be a 10x32 - though of course much bigger would be much better!
Thanks to Norm for the idea in post #6 at: Optics for a sea kayaker?
John
Stevenkelby
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Is that real?Hi Steven and ticl,
Funny that you should say that . .
See an Optisan Britec 7x21 that grows up to be a 10x32 - though of course much bigger would be much better!
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Thanks to Norm for the idea in post #6 at: Optics for a sea kayaker?
John
ticl2184
Well-known member
I do like the design of the burnt orange Jan...
Plus the hinge design has been tweaked a bit.... Some CL compacts suffered from these loosening dramatically over time.
135m fov is impressive for a compact. Look forward to getting my hands on a pair.
Cheers
Tim
ticl2184
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Actually.
On thinking about, the difference in brightness probably won't be that noticable. The wider fov will probably make the 7x21 appear as bright as the 25mm compact in daylight conditions...
Cheers
Tim
leonardo_simon
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Thanks
John A Roberts
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And then there is bigger . . .
The Tasco No.505 12x40, based on the original Nikon Mikron 6x15 inboard Porro prism design.
See a photo from: Minima quos aut reprehenderit amet. in 4152 Provident nobis veritatis hic. for US$838.00 for sale | Shpock
And for an idea of its size in hand, an image from: MiniatureBinoculars.com
And a page from a 1976 catalogue, also from Miniature Binoculars.
So a 12x40 at only 19 oz (540 g), with a claimed 300 ft at 1,000 yd (100 m at 1,000 m) FOV
- and with Swarovski NL like handling!
John
The Tasco No.505 12x40, based on the original Nikon Mikron 6x15 inboard Porro prism design.
See a photo from: Minima quos aut reprehenderit amet. in 4152 Provident nobis veritatis hic. for US$838.00 for sale | Shpock
And for an idea of its size in hand, an image from: MiniatureBinoculars.com
And a page from a 1976 catalogue, also from Miniature Binoculars.
So a 12x40 at only 19 oz (540 g), with a claimed 300 ft at 1,000 yd (100 m at 1,000 m) FOV
- and with Swarovski NL like handling!
John
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John A Roberts
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And even biggerer . . .
The 12x50 6° Simor ('See More'?).
It’s from WorthPoint (a listing of completed eBay sales) at: Simor 12 x 50 Extra Wide Angle Coated Binoculars, Very Clean & Rare + Wray Case | #1777131834
The images make clear the vertical orientation of the objectives in relation to the eyepieces.
And there were also 15x50 and 18x50 versions branded Super Zenith. At least one is marked J-B231, see at: SUPER ZENITH EXTRA WIDE ANGLE FIELD 3.8 BINOCULARS 18 X 50 J-B231 WITH CASE | #463739061
So made by Hiroyuki Tochihara aka Tochihara Optical Co., Ltd., Tokyo. See the listing at: http://home.europa.com/~telscope/jbcode.txt
John
The 12x50 6° Simor ('See More'?).
It’s from WorthPoint (a listing of completed eBay sales) at: Simor 12 x 50 Extra Wide Angle Coated Binoculars, Very Clean & Rare + Wray Case | #1777131834
The images make clear the vertical orientation of the objectives in relation to the eyepieces.
And there were also 15x50 and 18x50 versions branded Super Zenith. At least one is marked J-B231, see at: SUPER ZENITH EXTRA WIDE ANGLE FIELD 3.8 BINOCULARS 18 X 50 J-B231 WITH CASE | #463739061
So made by Hiroyuki Tochihara aka Tochihara Optical Co., Ltd., Tokyo. See the listing at: http://home.europa.com/~telscope/jbcode.txt
John
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John A Roberts
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A Fact Sheet (a pamphlet with specifications) for the CL Curio has become available at: My Service
It can be had in English, German, Italian, French and Spanish.
In terms of lens coatings, the Techinal Data indicates the presence of Swarotop (Swarovski's main multi-layer anti-reflection coating)
and Swarodur (the hard external lens coating), but not Swaroclean (the low friction external lens coating).
So the same as with the larger CL x25 Pocket models.
There is also an image of the carry case and strap for the Curio.
John
It can be had in English, German, Italian, French and Spanish.
In terms of lens coatings, the Techinal Data indicates the presence of Swarotop (Swarovski's main multi-layer anti-reflection coating)
and Swarodur (the hard external lens coating), but not Swaroclean (the low friction external lens coating).
So the same as with the larger CL x25 Pocket models.
There is also an image of the carry case and strap for the Curio.
John
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retired2021
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With respect to the Swaroclean coating I have mentioned in another threat that Swarowski made the following statement to me personally when I asked them about the Swaroclean coating:
quote - SWAROVSKI OPTIK gives top priority to sustainable products and the reduction of environmental impact during their manufacture. Therefore the SWAROCLEAN coating is no longer applied to all SWAROVSKI OPTIK products. With this step all coatings become PFC-free. This change does not affect the optical quality of the product or its service life.
The NL PURE series has been without SWAROCLEEAN since the beginning of production.
For the EL binoculars, the coating was changed over in the course of 2020. - unquote
james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
I assume the uneven heights of the oculars / eyecups is not a design specification…
spiralcoil
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Would the new "Swarovski 7x21 CL Curio" folded size the same (or bigger than?) as the "Leica 8x20 Ultravid BR" when folded?
Measuring my SW 8x20B and referring to John's technical sheet for the new SW 7x21 in post #54, the two are identical in all dimensions. Comparing the 8x20B with the UVBR, when fully folded they are exactly the same length with the UV being @ 1mm wider and 2mm taller or "thicker".
Mike
spiralcoil
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Thank you so much for your measurement! The CL 7x21mm is even "thinner" than the Leica UV 8x20mm!
