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Scottish independence and your UK list.... (1 Viewer)

KenM said:
Pure speculation on my part, but what might happen to the Scot’s list if Shetland was acceded back to Norway?😮😮
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Ouch..............don't even go there Ken.

Interesting concept.

Would birds you had seen there whilst it was part of Scotland still count?

I know it's all currently hypothetical anyway, but there are some interesting points to consider.
 
wolfbirder said:
Ouch..............don't even go there Ken.

Interesting concept.

Would birds you had seen there whilst it was part of Scotland still count?

I know it's all currently hypothetical anyway, but there are some interesting points to consider.
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Never having been to Shetland Nick I would lose nowt!, although I suspect others might be somewhat nonplussed!

With that scenario implemented, there could be much avian blood letting on all sides. 😂

The list loss might be somewhat considerable…wonder who the winners might be?

If you were a die hard, you’d have to look at your list from a historical perspective. 😮

Cheers👍
 
This may require some blue skies thinking. We're going to have to initiate a passport and visa regime for the birds, set up a borderless Schengen agreement with Scandinavia, and retain a Common Travel Area with the Republic of Ireland. Temporary admission permits for the breeding season only and a chain of secure doocot detention centres in remote areas for accidentals and vagrants. It may be the only way to keep the list intact!
 
paranoid numanoid said:
This may require some blue skies thinking. We're going to have to initiate a passport and visa regime for the birds, set up a borderless Schengen agreement with Scandinavia, and retain a Common Travel Area with the Republic of Ireland. Temporary admission permits for the breeding season only and a chain of secure doocot detention centres in remote areas for accidentals and vagrants. It may be the only way to keep the list intact!
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They should all wear face mask too, avian flu...........
 
I’m thinking that Norway might well be the winners in that scenario, with the rest of the UK being much depleted and that includes the “oil” 😮😮
 
A lot of people have mentioned losing Crested Tit, I read somewhere that there had been a few records ( single figures) n England. Cant remember where I read it possibly Birdwatch magazine. Has anybody got the details of these and whether they were twitchable?
 
Andy Lakin said:
A lot of people have mentioned losing Crested Tit, I read somewhere that there had been a few records ( single figures) n England. Cant remember where I read it possibly Birdwatch magazine. Has anybody got the details of these and whether they were twitchable?
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Would people be more interested in twitching them? Are UK twitchers mostly focused on their UK lists, or do they avidly chase things on more local levels.
 
Andy Lakin said:
A lot of people have mentioned losing Crested Tit, I read somewhere that there had been a few records ( single figures) n England. Cant remember where I read it possibly Birdwatch magazine. Has anybody got the details of these and whether they were twitchable?
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Perhaps of equal interest (didn’t know about the N.England records of Crested Tit), was the record of a bird seen at close range and compared with other tits close by.
Also heard to call on April 10th 1945 at Godstone, Surrey.
Presumed to have been of Continental origin, entry is in the “Birds of the London Area” (2nd edition), Collins 1957.
I’m assuming that’s been the only “Southern” record?

Cheers
 
Mysticete said:
Would people be more interested in twitching them? Are UK twitchers mostly focused on their UK lists, or do they avidly chase things on more local levels.
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Many UK twitchers keep national, country, county and varieties of local patch lists. Some might also keep e.g. a Scilly and a Shetland list of they regularly holiday there for rarities.

Some weeks after the 1987 storm, a brother of a friend of mine mentioned in passing that a Crested Tit had attended their garden bird table for a few days. The chap was not a birder but was a sharp observer with an interest in nature generally and his description, supported by my friend and his parents, was spot on (lets be honest that's not difficult with Crested Tit.) Obviously this one never made the books but I give it credence.

John
 
Farnboro John said:
Many UK twitchers keep national, country, county and varieties of local patch lists. Some might also keep e.g. a Scilly and a Shetland list of they regularly holiday there for rarities.

Some weeks after the 1987 storm, a brother of a friend of mine mentioned in passing that a Crested Tit had attended their garden bird table for a few days. The chap was not a birder but was a sharp observer with an interest in nature generally and his description, supported by my friend and his parents, was spot on (lets be honest that's not difficult with Crested Tit.) Obviously this one never made the books but I give it credence.

John
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A friend followed up a report once of a Crested Tit visiting a bird table on Southern England and it proved to be an escaped Taiwan Yuhina.

All the best

Paul
 
KenM said:
Perhaps of equal interest (didn’t know about the N.England records of Crested Tit), was the record of a bird seen at close range and compared with other tits close by.
Also heard to call on April 10th 1945 at Godstone, Surrey.
Presumed to have been of Continental origin, entry is in the “Birds of the London Area” (2nd edition), Collins 1957.
I’m assuming that’s been the only “Southern” record?

Cheers
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Last record in Devon in 1947 according to this link.

www.devonbirds.org

Home - Devon Birds

www.devonbirds.org www.devonbirds.org
 
I thought @John Cantelo was the resident expert on Crested Tits in England ... ? ;-) eg a reply on this thread.

www.birdforum.net

Crested Tit

Hi I've just joined what seems to be my only hope for reporting sightings of unusual birds in my garden. We are membners of RSPB but there does'nt appear to be any facilities on their website for reporting sightings of bird movements. Anyway, I live on the outskirts of of an urban area near a...
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JWN Andrewes said:
So, 12 months later and I have managed to remove two from my original list - Black-browed Albatross & Belted Kingfisher!
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Further changes -

Elegant Tern is a new Welsh only species, but Turkestan Shrike, Black Scoter & Hume's Warbler all now seen in England too (just Wales previously)

Forster's Tern, previously Wales & Scotland only now becomes the rarest bird I've seen in England, Scotland & Wales (thanks to the Arne individual). That title was previously held by Baird's Sandpiper.
 

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