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Rookie123 Monday 3rd October 2011 21:32

Sweden, Gotland, 3rd of Oct 2011. Common treecreeper och short toed dito?
 
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Hi,

Anyone has as an idea if this is a common treecreeper or a short-toed treecreeper?

Thankful for any help.

CerambyX Monday 3rd October 2011 22:04

Common to me - alula without extended white edge, short-ish beak, well marked supercillum up to the front of the head, no buff vent and probably some other features on wings which I don't know that well.

Rookie123 Monday 3rd October 2011 22:20

Thanks a lot CerambyX!

lou salomon Tuesday 4th October 2011 07:18

i'd put most weight on the strong step in the pale wingbar (left pic in the composed one). commonm treecreeper indeed. all other features are variable and overlapping, bill length is sex-dependent. call is best! and STC would be a mega on gotland...

Rookie123 Tuesday 4th October 2011 07:34

Thanks for the input Lou! Im very new to birding. The possibility for rookies like me to start learning through this forum is really great!

John In Ireland Tuesday 4th October 2011 08:48

Welcome to Bird Forum you will love it here. Nice photo's.

Rookie123 Tuesday 4th October 2011 18:18

Thanks John! This sure seems like a good place to visit frequently, given my very recent interest in birding. Biggest challenge for me is to learn lots of not so commonly used phrases in a non native language. Never had any tests in school with words like "supercillum", "wingbar" or "Short toed treecreeper"... but hopefully Ill pick that up as time goes by.

njlarsen Wednesday 5th October 2011 17:40

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Originally Posted by Rookie123 (Post 2256427)
Thanks John! This sure seems like a good place to visit frequently, given my very recent interest in birding. Biggest challenge for me is to learn lots of not so commonly used phrases in a non native language. Never had any tests in school with words like "supercillum", "wingbar" or "Short toed treecreeper"... but hopefully Ill pick that up as time goes by.

To help people like you, we do have the opus. On the front page is several tabs, and one of them goes to the resources page (direct link is: http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Resources_Portal). Notice here the page on Topography and the different dictionary pages.

Niels

Silverwolf Thursday 6th October 2011 03:11

Just out of interest, how are the calls of these two different? I heard Treecreepers on my visit to france but I didn't notice any difference in the high-pitched and shrill whistles I was hearing.

Rookie123 Thursday 13th October 2011 12:16

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Originally Posted by njlarsen (Post 2257204)
To help people like you, we do have the opus. On the front page is several tabs, and one of them goes to the resources page (direct link is: http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Resources_Portal). Notice here the page on Topography and the different dictionary pages.

Niels

Thanks for the info!


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