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michael-ibk Wednesday 20th May 2020 06:37

Montagu´s or Pallid Harrier, Tirol/Austria, May 17th 2020
 
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Really unsure about this Harrier I saw last Sunday, and I´ve heard all opinions from friends without a clear consensus - Montagu´s to Pallid to hybrid. Montagu´s is a very rare migrant in Tirol, Pallid would of course be exceptional. Would really appreciate the input of the experts here. Thanks in advance.

lou salomon Wednesday 20th May 2020 06:47

2cy (female) montagu's harrier for me. juvenile secondaries are very dark in most pygargus.

tconzemi Wednesday 20th May 2020 07:20

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Originally Posted by lou salomon (Post 4003201)
2cy (female) montagu's harrier for me. juvenile secondaries are very dark in most pygargus.

Agree, facial pattern all wrong for Pallid, dark fingers better for Monty

michael-ibk Friday 22nd May 2020 16:32

Thank you both Tom and Lou.

Muppit17 Saturday 23rd May 2020 13:32

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Originally Posted by lou salomon (Post 4003201)
2cy (female) montagu's harrier for me. juvenile secondaries are very dark in most pygargus.

I agree Monty's - only answering to highlight the attached link is a very useful summary published on the UAE birding pages for separating Monty's from Pallid
https://www.uaebirding.com/pallid-harrier-versus


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