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Richard Prior Monday 20th January 2020 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bismarck Honeyeater (Post 3949446)
Unless the bird itself is on or directly over your property, I would say.

On, over or from is my mantra.

Including heard as well as seen of course.
Nothing new recently but upgraded Black Woodpecker from heard to seen for the year this morning, one in nearby trees enlivened our breakfast
( until then my porridge was naturally the highlight;))

jnicholes Monday 20th January 2020 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3949342)
Yes, can't count it if you aren't physically on the property ;-)

I've had to leg it inside the gate for a couple of birds now and then - Osprey once springs to mind.

Yeah, I figured as much. Oh well, there will be other kestrels.

jnicholes Monday 20th January 2020 14:41

Ok, THIS time I was on my property when I saw it.

Turns out this American Kestrel is a local. It looks like it lives in the neighborhood somewhere. I saw it in the same tree I saw it in yesterday.

I might build an American Kestrel nesting box for it.

Didn't have my camera on me.

4) American Kestrel

Jared

RyanI Monday 20th January 2020 15:21

A few more from the past week. Puffin the definite highlight, a difficult bird to see in Norfolk.

59 Greylag Goose
60 Shag
61 Red-breasted Merganser
62 Puffin
63 Greenfinch

jnicholes Monday 20th January 2020 16:20

2 Attachment(s)
5) Mourning dove

Attachment 715459

Got a picture of that Eurasian Collard dove today. It was underneath my bird feeder.

Attachment 715460

Jared

Steve Lister Monday 20th January 2020 17:02

January 20th.

Two fly-overs:

41. Song Thrush - the first since November
42. Siskin

Also nice were two female Blackcaps together, the first time I have had two this winter.

Steve

dantheman Monday 20th January 2020 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bismarck Honeyeater (Post 3949446)
Unless the bird itself is on or directly over your property, I would say.

On, over or from is my mantra.

Yep. Can't think I've ever had an addition like that though myself ... has anyone? I've had a Wryneck in the hedge once, but I was the wrong side and wouldn't have been able to say it was actually on 'my side' of the boundary at the time ... or am I being too strict?

Richard Prior Monday 20th January 2020 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3949666)
Yep. Can't think I've ever had an addition like that though myself ... has anyone? I've had a Wryneck in the hedge once, but I was the wrong side and wouldn't have been able to say it was actually on 'my side' of the boundary at the time ... or am I being too strict?

Sounds correct and honest as I would expect from all of us;)
Like Jared I had a similar near miss when I lived at Selsey Bill, I was walking back home and saw a Pied Flycatcher just the wrong side of our fence, ran home, looked over the fence and the bird had flown! Never did get the species on the Garden List in my 16 years there.....

dantheman Monday 20th January 2020 19:32

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Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3945434)
Mabe Burnthouse, nr Falmouth, Cornwall, UK

1st Jan 2020

10) Collared Dove

Struggled to find my records, so being really good and starting with dated occurrences only - one specific that I can recall

6th Jan 2020

11) Kestrel one in flight (didn't have this last year)

Then -

19th Jan 2020

12) Grey Heron 1 over
13) Black-headed Gull - 2 circling nearby
14) Blackcap - 1 female
15) Goldfinch - 3 briefly
16) Dunnock
17) Rook - finally added 3, there's a big Jackdaw roost nearby
18) Cormorant - 1 in flight

20th Jan 2020

19) Pied Wagtail
20) Carrion Crow
21) Wren
22) Long-tailed Tit c5
23) Great Tit

Red Admiral butterfly on the front of the house on the 12th

Unfortunately no Firecrest since late December.

dantheman Monday 20th January 2020 19:41

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Originally Posted by Richard Prior (Post 3949671)
Sounds correct and honest as I would expect from all of us;)
Like Jared I had a similar near miss when I lived at Selsey Bill, I was walking back home and saw a Pied Flycatcher just the wrong side of our fence, ran home, looked over the fence and the bird had flown! Never did get the species on the Garden List in my 16 years there.....

Indeed ;)

The only other was a Water Rail that ran across the road in front of the car as I was approaching the field once ... it ran up the bank and out of sight and straight into my property ... undoubtably it did, but I didn't see it. A year or two later one overwintered for a few weeks in the Blackthorn scrub, so got it back.

birdmeister Tuesday 21st January 2020 00:35

One heard only

15. Common Raven

was a delight to listen to recently.

jnicholes Tuesday 21st January 2020 14:44

6) Canada Goose

They have been flying over a lot. I've been hearing them and seeing them.

They are fun to watch.

I've had Canada goose for dinner a few times also, no offense to bird lovers here intended.

Jared

jnicholes Tuesday 21st January 2020 16:16

2 Attachment(s)
7) House Sparrow

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8) Red Tailed Hawk

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Had my camera on me at the time I saw them. I was in my front yard.

I LOVE photographing Raptors!

Jared

Steve Lister Wednesday 22nd January 2020 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnicholes (Post 3950069)
6)

I've had Canada goose for dinner a few times also, no offense to bird lovers here intended.

Jared

I wish more people in the UK would eat them! They were introduced supposedly at least partly for shooting but nobody seems to bother with them, preferring proper wild geese like Pink-feet as prey.

Anyway...….

January 22nd.
43. Grey Wagtail - 2 over low late afternoon

Steve

halftwo Wednesday 22nd January 2020 11:02

Nuthatch - a brief glimpse of a silent bird across the road.

jnicholes Wednesday 22nd January 2020 15:31

Surprise today at my bird feeder.

9) Northern Flicker.

I never thought I'd see one so close to my feeder. It flew off before I could get a picture.

Torchepot Wednesday 22nd January 2020 18:00

Just curious - how about species recorded on trail cameras or noc mig equipment?

Richard Prior Wednesday 22nd January 2020 18:17

If I or my wife didn’t see or hear it myself I wouldn’t add it to an annual list like this (which is a harmless bit of fun for most of us each year - I think!), but I would definitely add a camera trapped or sound recorded record to my observations inputted to the LPO/ eBird.
I could be in a minority of one of course................

dantheman Wednesday 22nd January 2020 19:17

For the scientific record if it occurred, it occurred. As Richard says, if it's for your own personal recording, then no. I guess you have to have 'experienced' it in real time, in person ... but then, similar to dead animals*, can it go on the 'house/garden' list as that is a separate entity to yourself ... ?

Moral conundrum.

(* Did it die on the property, or was transported in by other means?)

dantheman Wednesday 22nd January 2020 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3949673)
23) Great Tit

24) Magpie

Another that had occurred earlier with no date. Starling the only outstanding (remaining to be added as opposed to being amazing) one now I think.

Possibles include a just-missed probable Buzzard and a bounding mid-sized passerine (probably a Great Spotted woodpecker), and a possible Chiffchaff in the hedge today.

halftwo Wednesday 22nd January 2020 20:18

I wonder if there had been a Victorian era equivalent to this and someone asked the question re optical aids, 'I've just acquired a telescope, can I include species seen through this device, rather than my own eyes?'
Is the camera trap any different?
Just asking.

Paul Chapman Wednesday 22nd January 2020 20:26

One addition this morning:-

25 - Long-tailed Tit - 22nd January

All the best

dantheman Wednesday 22nd January 2020 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by halftwo (Post 3950659)
I wonder if there had been a Victorian era equivalent to this and someone asked the question re optical aids, 'I've just acquired a telescope, can I include species seen through this device, rather than my own eyes?'
Is the camera trap any different?
Just asking.

Indeed ... ;)

At the moment the light (actual photons) still get received in our retinas, so yes, I would say it is different. And we are witnessing them at the time.

With the advance in technology it is probably a matter of years not decades whereby digital imaging in mainstream scopes and binoculars could mean that images are no longer of the actual creature, but a binary representation ... dilemma for all birders then??

Torchepot Wednesday 22nd January 2020 21:55

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Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3950670)
Indeed ... ;)



With the advance in technology it is probably a matter of years not decades whereby digital imaging in mainstream scopes and binoculars could mean that images are no longer of the actual creature, but a binary representation ... dilemma for all birders then??

This used to bother me when I first got a digital camera - as I felt that I wasn’t really “seeing” the subjects in photos and videos. Now I find that particularly by slowing down videos I can learn much more about plumage details and behaviour than with the naked eye or through optics. However I would still feel awkward about only having a digital experience of a species. Maybe a distinction that wouldn’t bother future generations?

Torchepot Wednesday 22nd January 2020 22:05

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Originally Posted by dantheman (Post 3950631)
For the scientific record if it occurred, it occurred. As Richard says, if it's for your own personal recording, then no. I guess you have to have 'experienced' it in real time, in person ... but then, similar to dead animals*, can it go on the 'house/garden' list as that is a separate entity to yourself ... ?

Moral conundrum.

(* Did it die on the property, or was transported in by other means?)

Interesting - I just found a freshly killed water shrew (puncture mark on the flank) on our land. Quite an exciting record (at least for me) as there are none from the atlas nearby.
Easily overlooked and certainly under recorded - but a strange situation - a definite record for the locality - but can I include it on my garden list?


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