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Laurie Knight Sunday 7th December 2008 01:58

Saunder's Tern, Cocos Islands
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I was on the Cocos Islands 12S, 97E the other day with a group of birders and photographed a group of terns that appear to be Saunder's Terns (prominent black primaries). Comments?

Regards, Laurie

Birdingcraft Sunday 7th December 2008 02:26

Why wouldnt these be winter plumaged Least Terns?

Laurie Knight Sunday 7th December 2008 02:49


Originally Posted by Birdingcraft (Post 1351324)
Why wouldnt these be winter plumaged Least Terns?

Have there ever been any records of Least Terns in the Indian Ocean?

Howard King Sunday 7th December 2008 03:33

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Patrick I think you are mistaking the Indian Ocean Cocos Islands (also called Keeling) Lat 12S, Long 97E (see ) with Cocos Island 0531′08″N 08704′18″W off the coast of Costa Rica (see

Laurie to in-part answer your question - we have here in the Gulf both Little and Saunders and there is considerable debate as to if the rule two Black primaries for Little over four for Saunder's holds true - and I don't know enough about your location to know if both species occur there. There are other features that can be used to separate them but its hard to tell from your photos - one point the extent of the white on the head ie. does it go behind the eye or not cannot be judge properly as the heads are all washed out by the sun.

This picture taken here early August shows three Saunder's in the front with a Little in the background.

l_raty Sunday 7th December 2008 12:15


Originally Posted by Howard King (Post 1351333)
[...] and there is considerable debate as to if the rule two Black primaries for Little over four for Saunder's holds true [...]

I'm not familiar with Saunders's at all, so won't attempt an identification. But I would not expect this type of character to remain valid throughout the year.

Contrasts in a tern's hand are typically moult contrasts - the paler grey feathers are fresher, the darker black/blackish feathers are older. The moult of Little Tern is rather complicated - but I think you just can't understand the contrasts you will see in the birds' wings without a basic understanding of what is going on in these wings. The primary moult happens sequentially, in 'series' that start with the innermost primary and run towards the outermost. But these birds, unlike many others, do not 'just' replace all of their primaries once. When a series reaches the mid-/outer hand, a new series is normally started in the inner hand. And so on, in a process that stops only at the approach of the breeding season. Usually three such series are started between two breeding seasons. The first starts with the innermost primaries in (late) summer; this series runs through the entire hand, and gets completed with the outermost primaries being replaced around Dec-Jan. Before this (Oct-Dec), a second series starts in the inner hand. When this second series reaches the mid-hand (Feb-Mar), a third series starts again in the inner hand. These second and third series do not get completed, though, (i.e., they never reach the outermost primaries) because the moult process is arrested completely just before breeding.

During breeding, the birds have primaries that have been renewed through the first, second and third moult series of the previous non-breeding season. The outermost 1-3 feathers have been renewed only once during the previous winter (first series, the only one that reaches completion), and date back from Dec-Jan. The median primaries have been renewed twice (first, then second series); the inner primaries have been renewed thrice (first, then second, then third series); these all date back from late winter/early spring. At this point, the outermost 1-3 primaries are several months older than the rest of the wing and are going to look very much darker.

(The main difference between Saunders's and Little, here, is thought to be that Saunders's moults globally later: when the breeding season approaches, their moult is less advanced, and when this moult gets arrested, the number of outer primaries that have not been renewed a second time is larger.)

During summer and autumn, though, the feathers that were fresh and pale in spring are progressively going to turn dark as they get older, and the contrast that was so obvious in spring will fade out little by little. Then, the first moult series will start and pale new feathers will be regrown in the inner hand. This means that on a late autumn Little, you could perfectly see 4 dark outer primaries contrasting against a paler inner hand.

On a mid-winter bird that just completed its first moult series entirely, whatever the species, the outermost primaries will be fresh, thus grey, and you'll see nearly no contrast at all.

Laurent -

Howard King Sunday 7th December 2008 12:35

Thanks Laurent for adding a great post - your answer will help us considerably to solve our own problems with Saunders/Little. Its the first time I have seen it written out so clearly thanks.

May-A Friday 19th June 2009 20:01

Thanks a lot Laurent . You explained it very well. This is a good example of an excellent forum post. I appreciate it much.

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