Steppe Grey or Great Grey Shrike? (1 Viewer)

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MuratC

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• Nov 11, 2017

• #1

Hi Everyone,

I have taken these photos this morning in northern Istanbul-Turkey. There are mixed opinions about this bird weather it is a Great Grey or Steppe Grey. Can you comment?

Thank You

 

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Tom

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• Nov 11, 2017

• #2

worn but still visible white margins to greater coverts make it a first winter bird; first winter Steppe would show much more white on wing, far smaller mask and paler bill as well as a longer PP
Typical Great Grey Shrike imho

 

M

MuratC

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• Nov 12, 2017

• #3

Thank You...

I've thought it could be a Steppe Shrike due to the paler mask in front of the eye, relatively long primaries and a larger white patch on the primary than a Great Grey. But of course I could be wrong as I'm no expert at all. I'll try to find it again if I can and hope to get a flying shot.

 

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MuratC

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• Nov 14, 2017

• #4

OK, these are fresh from today. All the birds in the photos are same, but it may not be the bird I posted earlier. I was able to get some flying shots where we can see the wings from above and below.

 

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Tom

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• Nov 14, 2017

• #5

nice pics, as white bases of secondaries are only present in Great Grey Shrike it is clear cut

 

M

MuratC

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• Nov 14, 2017

• #6

OK thank you