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  1. l_raty

    Parrots

    The ruling in Opinion 2332 was : Ruling (1) Under the plenary power the Commission: (a) has ruled that Psittacula Cuvier, 1800 is the type genus of PSITTACULINAE Vigors, 1825; (b) has suppressed the family-group name PALAEORNITHINAE Vigors, 1825 for the purposes of the Principle of Priority but...
  2. l_raty

    Parrots

    Psittacus ginginianus Latham 1790 is in effect a new name for Psittacus "erythrocephalos" = erythrocepalus Gmelin 1788 (the other references cited by Latham had all also been cited by Gmelin in his introduction of P. erythrocephalus). The base is : "La Perruche a teste rouge de Gingi", Psittaca...
  3. l_raty

    Parrots

    Vigors (and basically all other authors in his time) used alexandri for what we now call eupatria, and pondicerianus for what we now call alexandri. Cuvier had used alexandri in the same sense in a work which he referred to in the publication in which he proposed Psittacula. Under the Code...
  4. l_raty

    Parrots

    Once more, why Suavipsitta instead of Nannopsittacus ? Wolters (1975: 59) introduced Brotogeryinae at subfamily rank to accomodate the genera Brotogeris and Nannopsittaca (which was reported by Bock in 1994). But he gave no description or reference to a description there, hence the name was a...
  5. l_raty

    Parrots

    Wagler placed under Platycercus erythrotis the birds that had been called Psittacus pacificus, var. γ, by Gmelin/Latham, and Platycercus pacificus by Vigors in the Zool. Journ. (the one shown on the supplementary table I), which he called the male of his species; and the birds that had been...
  6. l_raty

    Parrots

    Vigors attributed Platycercus pacificus to Latham; Latham used a broad Psittacus for all psittacids, and the only pacificus he ever used in this genus was taken from Gmelin 1788, who had actually formed it by latinizing Latham's earlier (1781) English name "Pacific Parakeet". In addition to...
  7. l_raty

    Parrots

    Good question. I guess it was not realized that "the 1955 determination of gender" was actually in a ruling by the Commission and that the name was on the Official List...?
  8. l_raty

    Parrots

    Strigops is feminine, because it was ruled to have this gender by the Commission in Direction 26, and stands with this gender on the Official List. ('Direction' is a disused name for what is now called an 'Official Correction of an Opinion' (see the Glossary). Names on the OL are subject to the...
  9. l_raty

    Parrots

    Google: "Trichoglossus massena bp mus" - Google Search
  10. l_raty

    Parrots

    More recently added scans are generally better, I think (this scan is from 2009 : Revue et magasin de zoologie pure et appliquée : Guérin-Méneville, F.-E. (Félix-Edouard), 1799-1874 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive ), and French works may not be among the most likely to...
  11. l_raty

    Parrots

    Optical Character Recognition. Scans are passed trough a program that "reads" them, and turns the graphical content into a text layer. When you use the search engine, what you search is this text layer. Of course if the OCR program messed up the text in the first place (as here), your search...
  12. l_raty

    Parrots

    As I said : "Tiiii.ii0GL0ssu8MJkssENA.Bp. .W/fv. Pdiis. cxliis. Polynosiai. Simili'^ Tr. cyanognimmico; scd peclor^' coccinco vividioie uu- dulis slririiiiribiis; occipilc, gciiis, gulaquc fusco-caslaiieis; frniiic pluniis cloii|!alis. striclis. piilclire cyaiicis ; iiilTscapilin 2iilli< iii-...
  13. l_raty

    Parrots

    It is described lower down on the page. "Similis Tr. cyanogrammico; sed pectore coccineo vividiore undulis strictioribus; occipite, genis, gulaque fusco-castaneis; frontis plumis elongatis, strictis, pulchre cyaneis; interscapilio guttis rubris ornato." (Terrible OCR...)
  14. l_raty

    Parrots

    p. 157, not 147. https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/13681228
  15. l_raty

    Parrots

    Yes, but this .pdf version does not meet the requirements of the Code for electronic publication, because it is not registered in ZooBank. The printed version did not need to be registered, but some type of public distribution should have occurred -- original paper copies should have been made...
  16. l_raty

    Parrots

    OK. Is it correct to say, then, that, although there was a printed version, it was not actually intended for public distribution at all ? (If so, the book is probably best regarded as entirely unpublished for the purposes of nomenclature.)
  17. l_raty

    Parrots

    I understand completely that you don't do it. But if you don't, then these unregistered versions are not published in the sense of the Code, and your usage of names in them should not be counted in an analyzis intended to establish prevailing usage for the purposes of Art. 40.2. Your version...
  18. l_raty

    Parrots

    ??? It's 62 Kb. The .jpg file of your "mignon petit Traquet rubicole" is twice bigger.
  19. l_raty

    Parrots

    By my last count, I think that Bock 1994 was wrong in one way or another in roughly 50% of the names he listed, the most frequent issue being probably misattribution (i.e., he took the name from a source, while it was available from another). And his list was far from complete, too, indeed...
  20. l_raty

    Parrots

    When there is more than one available name potentially applying to a taxon, which one of these should be used as valid is determined in part by the past usage of these names. Eurhynchides Billberg 1828, Microglossidae Hogg 1846 and Proboscigeridae Mathews 1916 are all available names, formed...
  21. l_raty

    Parrots

    This is my (current) take on family-group names in Psittaciformes. (The .zip file contains a .xls file -- I had to compress it to be able to attach it here. The .xls is converted from a .ods file -- I don't use M$ products -- hopefully it is readable to anybody.) If anybody is willing to engage...
  22. l_raty

    Parrots

    Well, you do use scientific names, and nomenclature is affected by this, whether you want it or not. Your use of Proboscigerinae (in version 3.4, 2022) is cited in Gregory & Sangster 2023 in direct support of the nomenclatural validity of this name. You may be the only author to have used the...
  23. l_raty

    Parrots

    As I wrote, I may be wrong, but my understanding was that you printed version 6.1, 2023 ? "Usage", in the Code, means usage in publications, i.e., in works satisfying the requirements of Art. 8, and not excluded by Art. 9 of the ICZN. If a name is adopted on Wikipedia only, for example, this...
  24. l_raty

    Parrots

    I agree with the conclusion that Amazoninae and Proboscigeridae may be seen as in prevailing use relative to, respectively, Androglossini and Microglossidae. Note that Joseph et al 2012 (who revived Androglossini and retained Microglossidae) did not, actually, perform any global literature...
  25. l_raty

    Parrots

    Yes, sure, the choice of rank is up to you.
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