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  1. Jeff Hopkins

    unknown birds from Phoenix AZ trip

    Agreed, but the key to me is the contrast between the head and rump, rather than the absolute color.
  2. Jeff Hopkins

    unknown birds from Phoenix AZ trip

    I can speak to the hermit thrush. The key is that the head and shoulders are olive and the rump is a warmer red-brown color. A Swainson's would be all olive.
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