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    Short-toed or Eurasian Treecreeper in the Netherlands--Drents-Friese Wold

    Sadly I am old enough to remember Golden Plovers 'not having wing-bars'. Indeed I have notes from the '60's puzzling over the fact that I could see they had wing bars, contra the field guides. I don't suppose I would ever use flank-streaking on it's own to separate Tree and Meadow Pipit, but...
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    Short-toed or Eurasian Treecreeper in the Netherlands--Drents-Friese Wold

    So are you saying that there is no difference in flank-streaking between MeadowPipit and Tree Pipit?
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