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  1. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    The cockatoos have been removed from the Provisional list, the Silver Pheasant remains on it: American Birding Association Checklist Committee Report, November 2024 - American Birding Association They rejected Great White Pelican from the main list though, what are they on?
  2. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    The Silver Pheasant being included is new, and this is not noted in the published update overview. Interesting. Still baffled by the lack of inclusion of the magpie-jay, especially when they're including the cockatoos.
  3. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    If the population is there, I don't see why it would be any different even if observations are very rare - to compare it to a native species, it would be like Gray-headed Chickadee. They're always around in the ABA area, just almost never observed.
  4. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    But that's also a bit of a different case. Silver Pheasants are much more secretive and live in a much less densely-populated area than the mynas. There are also relatively few birders birding this area and probably even fewer specifically looking for this species. Even before 2013, it was...
  5. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Actually the first split that Clements did that did not align with the AOS was the split of Purple Swamphen. Or, perhaps people can just think of the lists eBird gives them and their own personal lists as completely separate things?
  6. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Common Hill Myna hasn't been sighted in Florida since May of 2022. Considering how densely populated the area they occur in is it's difficult to imagine them going undetected for such a long period of time.
  7. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    I commented on ABA Community and sent the RSEC an email. I suggest you do the same.
  8. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Wait a minute I just realized exactly what happened here. All they did was look at the eBird page for United States and take all the birds listed as provisional (minus Common Hill Myna, since it's extirpated). Black-throated Magpie-Jay is not listed because eBird marks them as escapees. Great...
  9. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Black-throated Magpie-Jay is the only other obvious missing species. Great Tit may have been excluded due to the fact that a potential record of natural vagrancy to Alaska is under review.
  10. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    The Lake Eola waterfowl in Florida shouldn't be in eBird at all. They're all pinioned, city-owned birds, although this does not seem to be common knowledge.
  11. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    If these "Provisional" species count for Big Years, then why are they not simply accepted to the checklist? What's the difference?
  12. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Bizarrely, only some of the Cattle Tyrant records are labeled as Provisional.
  13. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Here are the species that could potentially be added to the new "Provisional ABA list": Provisional in eBird due to not-yet-ABA-accepted populations: -Blue-crowned Parakeet -Swinhoe's White-Eye -Blue-and-yellow Macaw -Pin-tailed Whydah -White-fronted Parrot -Orange-winged Parrot...
  14. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    Yeah, but they've been there for over 20 years now. That's enough time to meet the requirements to be on the ABA checklist. Plus, as I understand, the population is going stronger just across the border in Tijuana.
  15. raymie

    2024 ABA Checklist update

    If they get the provisional list from eBird than notably Black-throated Magpie-Jay will not be countable, as all of them are called escapees on eBird for some reason.
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