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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Actually now I'm curious too - what birds are are you observing at 1.65km? I struggle to see anything at even half that distance 😂
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    I think the main issue I have (and likely many others have) with older glass like the FL's is the inability to easily test them / compare them to their modern alternatives. Another concern as mentioned would be that many examples will be out of warranty by this point (with the exception perhaps...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Never had the chance to look through a pair of FL's, but I've heard good things. Being a flagship Zeiss, I'm sure they would have a nice view. I guess my concern with something that old would be collimation issues from years of being knocked around, and the need to set aside extra funds in case...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    There are a lot of people for whom CA is quite bothersome (myself included), and thus for whom the Conquest HD could make sense. I've tried virtually all the best binoculars and I truly can't think of anything that beats it, particularly at used prices. But for people who can tolerate more CA...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Casscade owning both the UVHD+ and the SF in 10x42 I can share: 1. The Zeiss is slightly brighter (though the Leica is no slouch). 2. The Zeiss controls CA significantly better. Looking through the SF, minor CA only visible around the edges / the outer 20% of the circle to me (although I have...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    I hear you, simply the best feel overall. And their accessories are just in a different league. I was at the Leica store in Mayfair today and the sheer variety of straps, cases etc. was just amazing - you're truly spoiled for choice with a Leica in a way that no other member of the holy trinity...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Love them and bought one today as mentioned above! Wish it were even a few millimetres shorter (but as long as we're dreaming, I wish I could put their optics in my 10x42 Ultravid HD Plus's! Wishful thinking I suppose! Not sure if you've ever tried the Leica's, but their build quality, diopter...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Thanks, was a huge stroke of luck to be honest. It's a black, late 2020 model, brand new condition with the box etc (the seller purchased it along with an NL and decided to stick with the NL). One man's trash truly is another's treasure!
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    1. It might be because it sounds more significant (and has less decimals) than publishing it at 100 y / m (but just a guess). 2. Again just a guess, but it may be because it's easier to visualize size linearly rather than in terms of circular area (at least for me - a flat 400 ft just sounds way...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    Found a 10x42 SF in mint condition at a fairly reasonable price today and decided to grab one as well. Wonderful overall - if I had one criticism (aside from the length) it would probably be that I can't stand the objective covers! They're the same as the ones on my 10x32 Conquest HD, which are...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    My thoughts exactly! Precisely why it is so important to physically test these out in person. I love comparing a spec sheet as much as the next person, but at this level it is very much like comparing a Ferrari to a Lamborghini and a McLaren. The differences in optical performance are fairly...
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    Swarovski Swarovision EL 10x42 vs Zeiss Victory SF 10x42

    dorubird did you end up buying the SF? I had a pretty similar experience in comparing these at Harrod's today, but I also threw the 10x42 NL Pure into the mix. While I didn't point them at a chart, my thoughts: Optics 1. FOV - Tested at 90m and 200m. The Zeiss appeared slightly better than the...
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