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    AOU-NACC Proposals 2022

    Thank you Paul and Will. Seems like Thick-billed all over again. I did not have a vote but I would have chosen Lilian's. Young bird people hate white rich women who were honored because they were some white rich men's relative. She did not have the option to change her society and become an...
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    AOU-NACC Proposals 2022

    Yes. New bird for me. This is discussed here: https://www.aba.org/2022-splits-and-lumps-with-nick-block/ . Around minute 18 in. We know it passed because a survey of bird people was sent out discussing common names?
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    Identity of Dampier's Petrel

    In 1743 Edwards gave Latin names for his birds. Part I & II - A natural history of uncommon birds - Biodiversity Heritage Library . In 1776 Carolus Linne gave scientific names of these birds. A catalogue of the birds, beasts, fishes, insects, plants, &c. contained in Edwards's natural history in...
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    Identity of Dampier's Petrel

    Edwards lists great black peteril, white and black spotted peteril, and little peteril. 89 and 90 drawings.
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    Tyrannides

    Whew I apply facts to codes to make money but I am confused. I was wondering if Drapiez using again Muscipeta obscura Drap. in 1837 adds anything? (Zool. VII 1837 48) Which I cannot find. sec.2:pt.18=pp.4451-4690 [O Nigrum-Pallens] - Index animalium - Biodiversity Heritage Library . And again in...
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    Corvoidea

    I like Aenopogon . Bd.46=Heft.6-10 (1862) - Sitzungsberichte der Kaiserlichen Akademie der Wissenschaften. Mathematisch-Naturwissenschaftliche Classe - Biodiversity Heritage Library . And Aenobarbus Temm., as listed by Richmond. v.53=no.2194-2222 (1917) [Lacks:Pl.52] - Proceedings of the United...
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Thank you Bjorn and Laurent. I found the drawing very life like although from a dead skin. This reminds me of the work of Joseph Wolf, “Wolf depicted animals accurately in lifelike postures.” Wolf was working for Kaup in Darmstadt and “Kaup was impressed by his abilities and took one of Wolf's...
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Thank you Bjorn. For finding Westerman. I really like the drawing. I was wondering if you think this was drawn from life at the Zoo in Amsterdam or a specimen? Thank you Laurent for the book showing the title page to Tweede part dated 1851. The Brill website is not right I think. Deignan in...
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    Eriocnemis godini (Bourcier, 1851)

    What did they want? At least she got a bird named after her. t.1-2; Index (1850; 1865) - Conspectus generum avium - Biodiversity Heritage Library .
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    Ptilinopus leclancheri gironieri (J. Verreaux & Des Murs, 1862) and others

    A book mentions his birrth as 30 thermidor an V in footnote 2612. Ces messieurs de Nantes Tome 2 de L ˆ Z .
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Laurent mentioned that the one bird named for Revoil is a synonym of Macheiramphus alcinus. Which is listed as authored by Bonaparte in 1850. Macheiramphus alcinus Bonaparte 1850 Rev.Mag.Zool.(2) 2 p.482. The last line of a page from a 1861 book says the genus is spelled differently and the...
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Here are two OD of Revoil birds. Zoonomen has the Merops slightly wrong. Faune et flore des pays Çomalis (Afrique orientale) - Biodiversity Heritage Library . ser.7:t.5-6 (1880-1882) - Bulletin de la Société philomathique de Paris - Biodiversity Heritage Library .
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Revoil was a collector in Somaliland. Bulletin du Muséum national d'histoire naturelle . Could Ch. stand for Chez?
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    Chaetura gierrae Oustalet, 1890

    Snakes of the World call him A . Type: Holotype, MNHN 1897.24, a 469 mm specimen (A. Gierra, 1895). Type locality: “Tanga, dans l'Afrique orientale alle- mande” [= Tanzania]. Also called M. L. Gierra. Bulletin . Page 79. M. L. master linguist?
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    Trochilidae

    Yes Peter 1945 v.5 (1945) - Check-list of birds of the world - Biodiversity Heritage Library .
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    AOU-NACC Proposals 2022

    Thank you so much for checking Justin! So my choice for English name is St. Thomas Mango Gould. After all St. Thomas is patron saint of Geometricians. v.2 (1852-1854) - A monograph of the Trochilidæ, or family of humming-birds - Biodiversity Heritage Library .
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    Grassland Yellow Finch in Barbados-question

    Cory's Birds of the Bahama Islands 1880 does not list it. He mentions releasing English Sparrow. Birds of the Bahama islands - Biodiversity Heritage Library . Cory's The Birds of the West Indies (1889) does not mention this bird only the safron finch from Jamaica. The birds of the West Indies -...
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    Carpophaga pinon (Q. G.) var. rubiensis Meyer, AB, 1884

    Unlike Director Meyer we know, thanks to Martin's Gasquet post, it is C. pinon (G).
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    Xanthornus Gasquet Quoy & Gaimard, 1824

    Thank you so much Paul for finding this I was going mad. So I follwed Sherborn & Woodward 1901 to their source Bulletin sciences naturelles and on the next page 221 from August 1824 they say the name dates from 1823 in Voy. le Bull. 1823 t. 3 p. 52.?? Here it is: Tome 3 - Bulletin General et...
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    Xanthornus Gasquet Quoy & Gaimard, 1824

    Publication year: Bishop Museum says " Férussac, A. E. J. P. J. F. d. d. in Quoy, J. R. C. & J. P. Gaimard 1825 Search [Descriptions of various species, pp. 465–496, 18 June 1825] pp. 465-496in Zoologie. In: Freycinet, L. C. D. d., Voyage autour du monde, entrepris par ordre du Roi...
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    Dryobates pubescens gairdnerii (Audubon, 1839)

    In eBird they call Dryobates pubescens gairdnerii Downy Woodpecker (Pacific) . Eissenmann & Poor suggest Gairdner's Downy Woodpecker. https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/wilson/v058n04/p0210-p0215.pdf . He was from Britain and working prior to the effective date of the abolition...
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    Dryobates pubescens gairdnerii (Audubon, 1839)

    The Hudson's Bay Company Servants contract archive repeats the Cannon Street info. https://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/name_indexes/hbc_servants_contracts.html . Gairdner, Meredith 1832 Eng MDX St. Martins Cannon St. Surgeon Clerk They really mean billion graves! Meredith Gairdner...
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    Accipiter superciliosus fontainieri Bonaparte, 1853

    Martin thanks for looking for Fusus fontanieri . I have not found it yet either. All I know is the plate is in: “Paléontologie”, pls. 1–6 (=Géologie, pls. 4–9). In Dumont d'Urville, M. de D. Voyage au Pôle Sud et dans l'Océanie sur les Corvelles l'Astrolabe et la ... 145 items in the MNHN were...
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    Accipiter superciliosus fontainieri Bonaparte, 1853

    I agree the Father is the honoree. Victor Fontanier (Sept. 23, 1796 St. Flour France - Civita Vecchia, Italy May 26, 1857) He was French consul in Singapore, Basra and more and ended his career in Civita-Vecchia. He wrote a book about his travels in Eastern Mediterranean. He first studied...
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    Strisores

    Soon very soon "the validity of C. solala, described on the basis of a wing found in southern Ethiopia (Saford et al. 1995), was questioned by Forero and Tella (1997) and a molecular investigation into its identity is now underway (J. M. Collinson in litt.)." (PDF) A molecular analysis of the...
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