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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Kind of, at least when you have enough with 17mm magnification, which the others don't have. At 25mm it is slightly less light gathering than the others at the same magnification but not by a whole lot. For me the size difference is a lot bigger in comparison. The ATX85 is a whole different...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Indeed, I was confused by my typo, which said 25-60mm but was supposed to be 20-60mm in post 287. Thanks for clearing that up. I must have copied the exit pupils of the ATX85 objective then because the difference at 25mm you mentioned is way too big. Here's the correct stats, please ignore my...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Agreed! Good summary. I do find the wide view to be a feature for the ATC. From the review mentioned: I was surprised to see the 25-50mm exit pupil on the ATS65 to have a smaller exit pupil than the ATC.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Cool that it works as an eye piece! I have been wanting to find one.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    One of those bean bags in a shelter might work. I wouldn't try hand-holding it personally but for a quick spot check it might work!
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Thanks for the info. I think for most of my birding the 40x will suffice. For the few occasions it doesn't, no big deal, I suppose. Concerning exit pupil I compared it with the ATS/ATX65. ATS65: 25-60mm: 3,3 - 1,1 mm 25-50mm: 2,6 - 1,3 mm ATX65 25-60mm: 3,4 - 1,4 mm ATC: 3.4 - 1.4mm There's...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Wondering, is the 40mm zoom on this sufficient for most birding? E.g for seaside it might be somewhat missing? Compared to the ATS 65 which has 60max zoom. That's a third more. Any thoughts or experiences on this?
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    How's the stability with the Sirui actually? Haven't looked at that specific tripod.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Take a look at this post: https://www.birdforum.net/threads/swarovski-atc-which-lightweight-tripod.432995/post-4405747 I think it shows how compact the whole setup is.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    I would not get too hung up on grams. To me, it's more about volume. The ATC is incredibly compact and seems to be very well built. This means you can just drop it in your day pack without too much added protection. This, in itself, is more valuable than mere grams. I'd also use a heavier and...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Yeah don't expect to use it without a (lightweight) tripod I would say.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    You can go for a much lighter tripod, a Gitzo travel tripod should work well enough with the ATC. The optical performance is very similar to the ATS65. You might lose a few minutes of last light but that doesn't weigh up to the compactness of the ATC in my opinion. It's much easier to pack in...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    As Hermann mentioned in the thread before, didn't all scopes use to be without this pin in early days? I'd just make a habit of checking it habitually. Strange it would come loose that quickly though.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Thanks for the info, appreciate it!
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Is that with Habicht included? Nice spec! The Habicht is pretty bulky in volume though. Is it mostly for weight you choose a Habicht as your secondary bins? How do the Curios compare in eye cup comfort to larger bins?
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Funny, I feel the same way about the optics of the CL Pocket 8x25 by Swarovski. I take it everywhere, too. I can't imagine doing that even with a 8x32. The only thing I gave up was a bit of comfort in the eye cups, I feel like. That shouldn't even be the case for the ATC at all as it has the...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    Good to hear. Did you have a larger scope before this one to compare with? Friends in the birding group are trying to talk me out of getting the ATC and into getting a bigger scope. That's fine if you bird the way they do, i.e. drive to a pool and stand there. But I usually hike/bike so I still...
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    As for the handling with gloves, is it more difficult than with larger scopes? I noticed that with my Swarovski Pocket CL 8x25, handling in winter with thick gloves was an issue. Although I am used to it now and don't mind the small focus wheel with gloves as much anymore. You have to get used...
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    Swarovski ATC: which lightweight tripod?

    I might do the same 😉
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    Swarovski ATC: which lightweight tripod?

    Ah you did get the kit? Why didn't you get the fluid head from the get go - as you recommended? I am also tempted to just get the kit since it's a bit cheaper - I see it online for 583 euros while the tripod seperately would cost 450 euro. The fluid head would be around 250 euros to add to that...
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    Swarovski ATC: which lightweight tripod?

    Can't find this one anywhere in Europe anymore. Strangely the Gitzo GHF2W 2 way fluid head (2 series) they sell everywhere. Not sure if they still produce it. The series 2 head is 0.59kg while the series 1 head is only 0.46kg. I also noticed you can buy the kit gk1545t-82tqd kit (GT1545t + ball...
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    Swarovski ATC: which lightweight tripod?

    Looks good but will the tripod sitll be able to collapse entirely onto itself with this one?
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    No clue, this will be my first scope :) Fair point, cases are super personal and hard to get right. Good idea, the microfiber bag, I'll look into that.
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    New ATC/ STC 17-40x56 Telescope

    I noticed you don't get a case with the scope. Strange that, for the money and a travel scope you'll mostly bring along in your backpack. I don't even see any that you can purchase for it.
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    Swarovski ATC: which lightweight tripod?

    Thanks for the good info! This really helps. I think you're on point about just making a habit of checking the locking systems. Any thoughts on a good lightweight video head? You do lose the compact folding up, I think. i might get both eventually, depending how compact I need it to be.
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