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  1. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Not wishing to open up this thread again but just to thank all who commented regarding this bird. It's great that you all find the time to help!
  2. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    So the wing pattern definitely points to Atlantis, looking at Deb's link, but the back is on the light side... I'm not from Portugal or really into gulls, look at where I was coming from, but what is the significance of Atlantis in Lisbon?
  3. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Where's Lou?
  4. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Should be conclusive - I see nothing on P9 - whatever that makes it.....
  5. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    And the final shots. 2 from the first day and 2 from the second... I don't think the photos change much of the debate already had... I am happy to send pictures to anyone who wants to play with the editing.
  6. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    I wish I could really add to the debate! These are super interesting threads. Has this bird got a bigger head? Has it got a bigger bill? It certainly looks aggressive - smaller eye? Maybe. The black on the bill isn't significant in its size - is it a detail or is it an age thing? I have...
  7. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    As I failed to find this gull again on the third day are we leaving it there? He says moving onto Kestrels now...
  8. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Well thanks all so far for the information and for taking your time with this gull - including PM. And some great photos examples of other birds. Atlantis, Lustinus or other? I should reiterate I have very little experience of examining gulls (certainly not in recent times) but it looks like I...
  9. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Assuming this is the same bird here's a couple more - let's be honest if it is a different bird then that solves the question of there being some local colouring.... These taken today. Either way hope this helps.
  10. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Interesting - glad I took some pictures! Is the red at the start (not really base) significant? Red orbital ring seems to be important, almost seems to have a slight mask within the colouring, lighter leg and bill colour... I haven't got much literature with me (one bird book) and the internet...
  11. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Couple more...
  12. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Thank you for the responses... I have a few more pictures of it if need be - it stood out in the crowd - I wonder if the colour of the bill helps at all I as it was lighter than the other gulls around it. Gulls and seabirds are not really my 'bag'. Expecting South Westerly winds tomorrow...
  13. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Last two... I'm thinking 1st winter med gull again...
  14. rosbifs

    Gulls - Cabo Raso, Portugal 19.10

    Some gulls from today. Had a bit of a swatch today. A.couple of medium Shearwaters but too far and quickly gone for me, one Storm Petrel, I'm sticking with Storm Petrel sp although because it was so small I'm thinking Storm Petrel - it was super close but kept hiding in the waves!, one Short...
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