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  1. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Have you tried them Dennis? What did you think?
  2. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Further info from Vortex Wyatt Cole (Vortex Optics) Oct 27, 2020, 5:32 AM CDT Hi Jonathan, Like I mentioned below, the newest models that are manufactured in China are the most superior Razor HD model yet, optically, they're the best ones so far. I can personally guarantee you that where...
  3. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    I emailed Vortex: Good morning Jonathan and thank you for taking the time to reach out! This is a great question and while I sincerely apologize about any misleading information, I did not know that the video from the Japan models was still in place. They had been manufactured in Japan for a...
  4. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    No idea. Would that be bad?
  5. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Here is a picture of the exact set I bought
  6. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Thanks for everyone's advice over the last couple of days. I ended up passing on the Swaros. Instead I managed to pick up a nearly new (2 x trips) set of Vortex Razor HD 8x42 for £599. They seem to get excellent reviews and with the VIP lifetime no-fault warranty, seem to be a good purchase.
  7. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    HI Gijs, It is actually 742 Euros = £675, so hopefully that makes it even better. I am definitely starting to lean towards the Swarovskis. As I am looking for these also to use for casual astronomy, I don't think the 8x32 Zeiss would have a big enough objective
  8. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Thank you. Do you think it is the best value purchase for £675? Or is there better binos available for that amount?
  9. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Do you ever compared them to the sub-£1000 category? I get the feeling that for a lot of people a blind test with a £500, £1000, £1500 and £2k+ group of binos, would only lead to a lot of confusion.
  10. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    This EL was made in 2002 and belongs to the first generation of EL without HD lenses nor SWAROVISION coatings. A worldwide warranty for defects in material and/or workmanship is guaranteed for 30 years from the date of fabrication.
  11. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    To which are you referring to? The SLC, DBA VHD+ or the ELs?
  12. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    While it was an alpha back in 2002 when it was manufactured, my concern is that the only thing alpha about it in 2020 is the badge and warranty. Unfortunately I live in a part of Northern Ireland that doesn't have any bino shops close by, so I am trying to figure this out online. I currently...
  13. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I have attached a couple of photos of them.
  14. J

    EL 8.5x42 Mk1 vs new kids on the block

    Hi, I am a newbie on this forum and trying to find my way to buy a good pair of all round binos that will last my lifetime. (42 now, so another 40 years if lucky) I have the opportunity to buy a set of EL 8.5x42 Mk 1 (2002) for £675. Optically they are perfect condition, but the outer cover...
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