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  1. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I dismissed the Trinovid early on because of the poor FOV....but I had to give it a try and once I had it in my hands, I found the focus was butter smooth and very concise. I think I could more easily pinpoint tack sharpness with this bin over most others. While bulky and a bit overweight, the...
  2. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    UPDATE....July 15th 2020. This has been quite a quest....My final list came down to the Swaro CL, Nikon 8x30HG, Leica 8x32 Trinovid and Ultravid. My wife has the Meostar 8x32. Her pair is wonderful and the focus wheel is loosening up well so of the entire line-up I tested, the Meostar was very...
  3. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    Does anyone know? .... If the 'plus' has done that, what will the B2 line look like? How different will the current Meopta line look like in a few years? Also...here is a shot of the Conquest, CL and HG ..... If one is looking for lightness, less bulk...the HG is the way to go. The Conquest in...
  4. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I think my final thinking on this evolves around the Meostar 8x32 and 10x32. The Meostar (Meopta brand) just doesn't promote their products too heavily like Swaro and Zeiss, even Nikon. But the glass....is great. The price is great. Now might be the time to act upon the Meostars while there is a...
  5. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I have seen these on eBay from time to time....not a bad price. They are a bit bigger though. The close focus is not any better than the CL and the focus is slower than many. Still a nice bin with that 3D view.. Yes, you can buy the HG for 13% off now at Sports Optics in USA and I have not seen...
  6. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I have had the same issue with Cabela's...any state I have been in. A pitch they make to sell the most products I suppose. As Paskman stated: When it comes to the time when I want to change or upgrade my binoculars, I know that they (Swarovski)will keep their value better than the non "big...
  7. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    We have a small shop connected to the Cape May Birding Observatory here where they have most bins common to birding. But they are closed and not sure when they will re-open. I would love to go in there and actually compare multiple 'side=by-side'... Up to this point I have compared them but...
  8. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    Correct on the FOV...I think I have so many numbers in my head now that my eyes are dizzy from it all:-). Still the feeling of bulk with the Conquest, the weight etc.... Again, I am not going to keep them all and I made decisions on them as I had them. Although I ordered many of them to my...
  9. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I have thought about the EDG, the upcoming SF, Ultrvid, EL etc...but I wasn't going to go there in terms of price point this time around.
  10. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I think they are too bulky as I pick them up...just not the look I was looking for this time around so a personal thing in that sense. Otherwise, the FOV is not good. Looking at the bins coming out now the trend and I think rightfully so to a point is to go with more FOV like the recent NikonHG...
  11. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    This is the key. As I said, my wife looked at one pair of bins and went 'wow' and I look at another and say 'wow'. Goes to show you our eyes are different. It is important to look at the specs, but also look at how you bird, how the binocular fits and simply enjoy it. The point is to enjoy...
  12. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    Mike...so correct.... But at the moment I was in need of a pair of binoculars and when I get to the point I actually want to buy something, I go a bit anal in the process of looking at everything, the stats, trying them out etc... I started with a list of things I wanted based upon 'how I...
  13. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    According to Holgermetlitz.de..... (http://www.holgermerlitz.de/old_vs_new/cl_hg_8x30.html)... It leans towards the Nikon HG over the Swaro CL. Either way, pretty close.
  14. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    Let's just suppose I have a real good copy of the Nikon and obviously with the close focus being 5.5 instead of 6.6, it leans that way. I also feel that ALLBINO's did a pretty solid job of 'dinging' the Nikon but was pretty lenient on the Swaro. But given this 'edge' thing. If the Nikon HG has...
  15. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    Yeah, I saw Allbinos...and that is what I was expecting for both the CL and the HG. But I have the opposite. Maybe my eyes, maybe the product...who knows? What I do know is that the HG for my copy has a close focus of 5' 5" or 1.67 meters while the Swaro wasn't double that but certainly not a...
  16. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I didn't include Porro design. I have had the Bushnell and Swift Audubon (might be the same), and I did love them and still have both pairs. I find them not as easy for travel purposes. I feel they do have advantages but are not in my radar now. I am not familiar with the Kowa YF, Yosemite. I do...
  17. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    yes.....so true...so true!!!!... I watched a You Tube that spoke of the Flattening lens and knew coming into this from our Forum that 'it was not be had'...so I suppose I wasn't looking for it. :-)
  18. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I am not buying this argument or suggestion on several levels...but I do agree with what others state in that a binocular is a personal thing and what goes for me, doesn't always go for the other guy. . First...Yes I agree that optically the HG is not going to be that much better than then...
  19. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    I never made it to the 'vast array' of $400 and below products as there appear to be many. I thought I would take the Frontier Ed x as an example of one that appears to be on the high side. Another one might be the Opticron Traveler. Regardless, my desire was to find the 'mid-level' bin to meet...
  20. lmans66

    My Quest for the Perfect 8x32

    My continued Quest for the perfect 8x32 (or 8x30) binocular to use as my only bin. (https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=389434) So, my quest has been fun. My requirements were that the bin ‘not be an alpha’ (Swaro EL, Zeiss FL, Leica Ultravid) or that it can be an entry bin. I am under...
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