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  1. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    The more one researches buteos in Asia, the more one ‘unlearns’!
  2. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    Hi John - I was referring to the buteo races breeding in Northern/Central China and Manchuria - which apparently winter in Southern China and SE Asia (and possibly South Korea) - distinct from the breeding populations in NE India/Nepal. As Richard Klim refers to here Post in thread ''Himalayan...
  3. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    So Rob, Apologies for all the detours but we can summarise as follows: Your buzzard is not an Upland Buzzard for the reasons stated in #1. Pinning down wether it is a Japanese B.b.japonicus or Himalayan B.b.burmanicus/refectus is not going to be possible on this one image imo. Japanese is...
  4. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    No need to retract anything Niels - I can’t see you being incorrect with anything and as for your last post, I believe you may be referring to my favourite thread on Birdforum of all time the utterly impenetrable and almost incomprehensible ‘Himalayan Buzzard’ thread 😅 (The link to which I...
  5. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    w Yes, that’s actually ‘old’ news to some extent - treatment here http://www.caluta.liitin.net/Caluta/Caluta4.pdf Can you be more specific on this please - are you referring to hodgsoni - ? - which wouldn’t apply to Korea since hodgsoni is a nomenclature that has been given to plumipes, a...
  6. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    Feel free to clarify Niels.
  7. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    Japonicus would be the assumption- however Burmanicus may also winter in the Korean peninsula (and does according to some literature) - presumably from Central China or Manchuria breeding populations Post in thread ''Himalayan Buzzard''...
  8. Deb Burhinus

    Upland Buzzard? Gangneung, South Korea (9/2/21)

    The lack of feathered tarsus (among other things) say not - perhaps japonicus or even wintering refectus/burmanicus - I am not sure what Common Buzzard complex options there are in Korea or even how you would reliably separate the latter in that region.
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