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  1. Deb Burhinus

    Id needed for this martin

    Are these all the same birds that you’ve added? # 2 and maybe #4 look like different birds with less contrasting coverts and paler brown with smaler less distinct spots? The vent also looks paler and less contrasting than the bird in image #1 Re the new images: Pale Crag Martin doesn’t occur in...
  2. Deb Burhinus

    Id needed for this martin

    Given the number of views but no other opinions being proffered here either as an alternative to my suggestion or confirmation, is leaving me wondering what I am missing if this is not a rupestris? Eurasian Crag Martin - note how light changes in the link below of a 1w bird with impression of...
  3. Deb Burhinus

    Id needed for this martin

    Looks like a Eurasian Crag Martin to me - in Europe I’d have no hesitation but I’m not sure what the other options are here apart from a Dusky (which has darker underparts with concolourous utcs and a paler throat as well as being smaller than this appears to be.)