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  1. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Unfortunately we are not there yet... need a few more threads on the subject I guess... Anthony and Suricate have been entering into the spirit of things..
  2. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    I thought it was an opportunity to make sure that if anyone does an internet seach on songbird survival or save our songbirds, the first page of hits will come to threads on BF, which will leave absolutely no doubt about that the organisation is a sham.. its charitable status is questionable etc...
  3. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Ho Ho ho... oh just happened to pick up an old BB and saw your Arctic Redpoll descriptions... fabulous work... and most festive :)
  4. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Come on John.. enter into the spirit of things... can you come up with a better theory than my Spandex one :)
  5. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    In as much as if the habitat, feeding and nesting resources were sufficient to support enough prey numbers to support 1,000,000 Sparrowhawks, then the number of Sparrowhawks would not influence their prey... precisely.
  6. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    They are.. the Save our Songbirds campaign has recruited that doyen of nature broadcasting, Jeremy Clarkson, to publicise (and where possible exaggerate) the numbers of the ruthless killers and whip a storm of protest.
  7. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Every last one it seems...
  8. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    For the record I have been able to find strong circumstantial evidence from the US proving the attractiveness of Spandex to Sparrows generally: Rintoul and I spent the weekend hobnobbing with RVs, diabetes bike-a-thon riders in strange and dangerous spandex, and automatic sprinklers at Furnace...
  9. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    I have found unequivocal evidence linking the decline in Tree Sparrow Populations with popular music trends. http://www.bto.org/birdtrends/wcrtresp.htm See the CBC data here and notice that the species' decline coincided with the end of Glam rock and the onset of punk. The decline continued...
  10. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    not at all Ian!
  11. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    You wouldn't be the first person to suggest this.... in one of those laugh till your diaphragm hurts moments I once overheard my then 6 year old daughter talking to her Grandma..... the conversation went like this..... Grandma: "Its funny you know, I get Great Tits, Blue Tits, Goldfinches even...
  12. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Figures across Europe vary, but to a first approximation numbers now are more or less what they were before the DDT decline and the nadir was between 40 (Belgium) and 80% (East Germany) of current figures... with 50% being about average.
  13. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Older figures for Sparrowhawk populations "Heavily persecuted by game interests, showing marked increase when persecution relaxed, e.g. central Europe 1940–50 (Glutz von Blotzheim et al. 1971) and Britain 1939–45 (Newton 1972). Marked decrease many areas from mid-1950s due to pesticides...
  14. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    OK I was being lazy!
  15. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Tim, you are perfectly in character... you have a future in RADA.
  16. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    If its not the evil pale pigeons... it must be those nasty Robins... I'll see what I can find re earlier figures
  17. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    Anyone interested in trends take a look at these...and the rest of the figures available from national census figures. http://www.bto.org/birdtrends/wcrrobin.htm http://www.bto.org/birdtrends/wcrsparr.htm http://www.bto.org/birdtrends/wcrbluti.htm http://www.bto.org/birdtrends/wcrcoldo.htm...
  18. Jane Turner

    SONG BIRD SURVIVAL Pt 2

    According to the CBC... which is much the best source of data, the Sparrowhawk population peaked in 1992 and is now in very slight decline. The most recent attempt at population estimate I can locate Pairs with new nests (1988-91) (Gibbons et al. 1993): England=22000 Scotland=7000...
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