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  1. lou salomon

    Large Baghdad gull id help please, and tern too:)

    upperwing pics and fanned open tail from above are best in immature large gulls (as in pic 1). just quality of the pics could be a bit better - you'd need to see more detail to try a positive ID - which in your neck of the woods is really hard anyway.
  2. lou salomon

    Large Baghdad gull id help please, and tern too:)

    it could be either caspian or armenian or even steppe. not much to get from these images. apparently shortish bill is in favour of armenicus, rather plain wing more pro cachinnans (which i think is rather scarce in that area). tendentially i'd go for armenian, they also can have almost plain...
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