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Potential WP seabird splits (1 Viewer)

Richard Klim

Richard Klim

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Callahan 2010. Taxonomy: Seabird splits. Birdwatch 217: 25-27.

In a third article on Western Palearctic splits, David Callahan outlines recent and potential splits of seabird species:

  • Pterodroma [mollis] madeira
    [*]Pterodroma [mollis] (feae) feae
    [*]Pterodroma [mollis] (feae) deserta
    [*]Calonectris [diomedea] borealis
    [*]Calonectris [diomedea] edwardsii
    [*]Puffinus [assimilis] baroli
    [*]Puffinus [assimilis] boydi
    [*]Hydrobates (pelagicus) melitensis
    [*]Oceanodroma (castro)     ssp ('Grant's')
  • Oceanodroma (castro) jabejabe
    [*]Oceanodroma (castro) monteiroi
    [*]Phalacrocorax (carbo) lucidus
    [*]Phalacrocorax (aristotelis) desmarestii
    [*]Larus (michahellis) atlantis
Richard
 
IOC already recognizes a good chunk of these, doesn't it?

I rather like the taxonomy in flux treatment of Storm Petrels...normally I am a splitter but I really don't want to see every season and island have it's own species of Storm Petrel.
 
Wait for it Mysticete. Sooner or later storm-petrel splitters will also resplit all of the great albatrosses (already carved up once) to acknowledge that only half the population on a given island breeds during the course of one year. When I was at school that was known as resource-partitioning. Broadly the same principle applied to storm-petrels is now called speciation.

My tongue might be somewhere near my cheek, but not entirely in.

The splitters will tell us that these storm-petrels vocalise differently, but as the existence of dialects is well known in several tubenoses (e.g. Manx Shearwater), where does that leave us?
 
Mysticete said:
I rather like the taxonomy in flux treatment of Storm Petrels...normally I am a splitter but I really don't want to see every season and island have it's own species of Storm Petrel.
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Morgan, maybe you'll soon be able to give us an opinion on Oceanodroma (castro) 'kumagae'. [Just don't spend too much of your time in Japan on mammals and herps (or fossils...).]

Richard ;)
 
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Don't worry, I am already planning trips to Miyakijima, Ogasawara, Okinawa, Amami and Hokkaido over the course of the summer :p

Although I had enough problems with the nominate Band-rumped last month that I would put too much hope on me sucessfully getting on the Pacific form :p
 
But, does the paper by Callahan necessarily depend on PSC? If it did, then I overlooked something.

Niels
 
njlarsen said:
But, does the paper by Callahan necessarily depend on PSC? If it did, then I overlooked something.

Niels
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I didn't say it did. I was responding to birdboys comment re perceived field identification problems from the increasing splits of seabirds with a reference to a general paper about the potential problems of splits (that includes reference to seabirds!)
 
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Most of the Storm petrel splits are actually BSC. In fact, I think the genetic data doesn't really support PSC splits of many gulls petrels.
 
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