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Old Monday 27th November 2017, 04:57   #146
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Originally Posted by BruceH View Post
Are you sure about that? I know I read some posts indicating that a Swarovski binocular had to be a North America import in order to have warranty work covered by Swaro of N. America (SNOA). Here is what one member said in response to a dealer comment saying the warranty is active in the country where purchased .......

"I think your right on the warranty Proud Papa. The Swarovski binoculars have to bought in North America for the warranty to be good but how often do you have trouble with Swarovski's?"

Maybe SNOA worked on you Habicht because it is not a model they normally stock. It can be sent back to Austria but that can be expensive.

Sounds like you are returning to your previous affinity for the "apha" view. As you once said, "Once you have Alpha you can never Backa?".

That was a lively thread!

I am not sure if the new CL will provide the sharper edges and the bigger FOV that you want in comparison to your experiences with the 8X42 Toric.

I have the Toric in the 10X42 and the large center view along with the mild drop off is one of the outstanding qualities about it. From what I have read, the 8X42 has the same qualities. Here is what you had to say about that .....

"The Toric is as good as any binocular I have ever looked through on-axis and it has a big sweet spot with a very gradual fall off at the edge. The edges are actually pretty sharp and you don't notice the difference in sharpness between the SV in normal viewing unless you look at the edges on purpose."

It would most likely take a flat field binocular to beat the Toric in this regard. Since the new CL is a classic design like the Toric, it will have to be exceptional to have better edges than what you were used to in the Torric.

FOV: Keep in mind that even though Tract spec'd the 8X42 Toric with a FOV of 377 ft, Steve C. measured it at approximately 404 ft which is greater than the 396 ft FOV spec for the new CL.

It does not look like the new CL will have a bigger FOV or center than your baseline Toric but it should meet your desire for lighter and smaller and that may be enough to work for you.

It will be interesting to read if the new CL goes far enough up the food chain for your requirements. How long does it take to get a binocular shipped over from Europe and what happens if you find it does not meet your needs?

I have never purchased a binocular from overseas but would do it if it were a model I could not get here. I did purchase what was advertised on eBay as a new old stock SLC WB HD from Canada but it turned out to be a bad listing and was the new version. It was expensive to send it back and required confusing paper work. Lucky for me the seller had to pay the return shipping because of their error in the ad.
Yes, I have had a couple of Swarovski's sent in for warranty work that were not purchased in the USA over the years. Swarovski always covered them under warranty. Regarding the Tract Toric 8x42. It is an excellent binocular but based on what people have been saying about the new CL and my experience with the older CL I think the new one will have a little wider FOV and a little bigger sweetspot with sharper edges than the Tract. But that is speculation until I try the CL. The CL will give me a more compact, lighter binocular for travel and hiking. I would be happy if it performed close to the Tract. What I am looking for also with the new CL is a little better contrast than the EII. It seems you really have to move up the food chain in roofs to get that nice contrast. The Euro HD's had really nice contrast so they obviously had high end glass and coatings. Too bad mechanically they had some issues. When you compare them side by side you really get hooked on that nice contrast. The Euro HD's had better contrast than the Bushnell M's or the Nikon MHG's or the Nikon EII's. They were essentially alpha level in regards to contrast. Here is a nice review on both the Tract Toric 8x42 and the older Swarovski 8x30 CL. As far as international shipping I have did it many times without any problems. You can return the binoculars to the seller or send them to Swarovski under warranty if there is something wrong with them. If you just don't like them you might be better off just selling them on Ebay because Swarovski's sell very quick especially a new model like the CL that isn't available yet in the US.

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