reed warbler or ... (1 Viewer)

Michał Jaro

Well-known member

• Dec 6, 2018

• #1

I had this bird couple of years ago - identified by me as a reed warbler ..... but I'm wonderinglike about a small primary projection, clearly "light" top, and lack of lore ?

 

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KenM

Well-known member

• Dec 6, 2018

• #2

Looks like a Blyth’s Reed Warbler to me Michal.

Cheers

 

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Dawsy

Well-known member

• Dec 7, 2018

• #3

I would never claim to know enough to ID a Blyth's but that is a seriously short, stubby bill for a Eurasian reed warbler. That's pro-Blyth's right?

Michael

 

Mark Lew1s

My real name is Mark Lewis

• Dec 7, 2018

• #4

I'm seeing a lot of pro marsh warbler features here.

Short stubby bill,
rounded head
yellowish legs and feet
well marked tertials
general pale sandy tones

I know the PP looks short, but I wonder if this could be something postural. I'd hope to see a much better supercilium on a BRW

 

Tib78

Well-known member

• Dec 7, 2018

• #5

It looks simply too reddish for anything but a Reed warbler to me.
In any case blyth’s is not an option solely based on tertials pattern.

 

dantheman

Bah humbug

• Dec 7, 2018

• #6

Tib78 said:

It looks simply too reddish for anything but a Reed warbler to me.

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A quick look at the green stems shows a reddish cast to many of the edges - not as extreme a case of colour alteration as has been seen on here, but perhaps the real thing was not so reddish ... ?

 

KenM

Well-known member

• Dec 7, 2018

• #7

As Michal suggested, the pp is extremely short for RW, and the emarginations fall in line with the tertials, the bill looks heavier because it’s partly open with prey items....

Cheers

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Dec 7, 2018

• #8

pp is not too short for reed warbler. but definitely too short for marsh.

 

Mark Lew1s

My real name is Mark Lewis

• Dec 7, 2018

• #9

I can't see any emarginations!

I can buy this being a reed warbler for sure, but I don't think its a Blyth's.

 

KenM

Well-known member

• Dec 7, 2018

• #10

lou salomon said:

pp is not too short for reed warbler. but definitely too short for marsh.

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Agreed, the pp looks to be 2/3 of tertials, that’s the overlap with BRW. Emarginations which I can see on blow up, appear to be at the extreme end of the tertials, which would favour RW over BRW.

Cheers

 

Michał Jaro

Well-known member

• Dec 7, 2018

• #11

thank you very very much for all the discussion and solving the puzzle I should add that the bird was from Poland, where feeding Blyth's it would be an incredible rarity

 

cafe birder

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• Dec 8, 2018

• #12

Doesn't the pale eye suggest paddyfield warbler? That would also suit the contrasting tertials and ,to my eyes, short primary projection. I presume range would go against this though. Happy to learn otherwise as I have always found these species very difficult.
Howard

 

PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy

• Dec 8, 2018

• #13

Eye stripe doesn't look prominent, dark or long enough for a Paddyfield IMO.
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