Originally Posted by jurek
And sorry, my low opinion about vegans comes from that I recently discussed with several preaching vegans, and they just could not understand that e.g. meadows in Europe are usually located on hills, mountains or near rivers, because this land could not be plowed for grain production. Or that biodiversity goes extinct primarily from habitat degradation not climate change.
Well, here in Northern Germany, there's a lot of pasture land on even ground, too. And for conservationists, it's a constant fight to keep farmers from turning it into agricultural fields (usually maize, for the production of "renewable energy"). Because the pastures, if properly managed, are critically important for Lapwings, BT Godwits, Curlews, and a number of other species typical for the region. Whereas the maize fields are notoriously poor in biodiversity and the only thing that thrives there is wild boar.
Maybe the adherents of the Church of Veganism want to explain how to ensure a healthy plant- (and fungi, or are they verboten
, too?) based diet while still maintaining local biodiversity and importing as little food as possible. And taking AGW into account at the same time, of course.