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And right in the center of the page, where it should never be. And yet it works just perfectly there. Heed what Tim says about the machinery though.
 
Well rules are fine training devices then they are made to be broken...Richard Schmid one of the best of our generations, often makes paintings that go against what SOP is supposed to be for the sheer challenge of making it work, like this one does.
 
And right in the center of the page, where it should never be. And yet it works just perfectly there. Heed what Tim says about the machinery though.

no violent choppin or a changin this time, just a bit of fiddling with the veg., hopefully for the better but actually I'm not sure: might take some of the newly addded smaller branches to the left of the bird away again or tone 'em down

as for placement, the one thing I did try and do was to place him slightly above centre as these chaps inhabit the 6' to 8' zone- so to look at them you should be peering up ever so slightly as hopefully you are here
 

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Centering the subject?

A Master can make it work by using it to point to everything else in the piece.

You have done this so successfully, my eyes are spinning in their sockets!

But also the centre reflects the whole. No coincidence it evolved that plumage!
 
as for placement, the one thing I did try and do was to place him slightly above centre as these chaps inhabit the 6' to 8' zone- so to look at them you should be peering up ever so slightly as hopefully you are here

I think that's exactly the case Ed, peering ever so slightly up.

I'm not sure everyone understood my 'center' comment, which I guess is just part of the problem of e-dialog. People don't know if you're being literal or humorous. I really don't begin to care about rules of art and have never followed any. I meant it as a humorous compliment that you broke a supposed rule and that made the painting all the more successful.
 
the problem of e-dialog. People don't know if you're being literal or humorous.

take it easy old bean- either or both would work here

I'm too old or stubborn (nearly as old as Wootton) to master emoticons

on the literal side re centralism and rules there's a study to be done on how often Jonsson places birds centrally, not because he is a rampant rule breaker I think, but because on one way of looking at his work he is more a portraitist than a landscaper

there's a fascinating little step in his early development when he moved from doings styled in the way of the great lord Brusewitz (fencelines, roads, natural features organised to point or lead to offset birds) to more centrally placed birds radiating their inner calm (often stationary or resting) [he did do that ferociously complex but subtle egret thing based on a renaisisance pic- but more generally..]
 
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I am always in awe when I look through these threads..and feel there isnt much I can offer to the converstaion... beautiful beautiful work..

one day..:eat:

:-O
 
hello all

round at Keeble senior's yesterday evening where a Long-tailed Duck on a mirror, looking rather fetching in mobile phone pic I thought
 

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hello all

round at Keeble senior's yesterday evening where a Long-tailed Duck on a mirror, looking rather fetching in mobile phone pic I thought

Very fetching indeed Ed.....needless to say 'i like'...;)

ps...mobile phone pix now...? Who in their right mind would start doin that...?!! ..[chuckle]....!

All the best....:t:
 
In addition to previous voices, I'm finding that the shrike has something really neat going on with the feeling of a lens warping around the edges - it makes the centrality of the composition feel right, and intentional.
 
the shrike just zings life and "look at me" attention-seeking - exactly how I would hope to see such a beautiful bird. There is nothing better than long-tailed ducks, can we see more of this one???
 
There is nothing better than long-tailed ducks, can we see more of this one???

hello there- here's the boy

plus I caught Keeble senior using some utter pornography as a reference, which I have confiscated
 

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