Italy - Gulls (1 Viewer)

Fandango739

GeoBird

• Oct 27, 2019

• #1

All seen early to mid October.

1) Seen at Bellagio / Lake Como. Noticed the 'clean' beak colors.

2) Seen at Verona. Noticed the 'dirty' beak markings, with the black / grey inclusions.

3) Seen at Bellagio / Lake Como. Black-headed or Mediterranean?

4) See in Verona. The dark spot seems a bit more smeared than in 3 and maybe the beak is slightly different. Same specie or did I manage to see both?

Thanks!

 

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Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Oct 27, 2019

• #2

3 & 4 - Black-headed Gulls, both :t:

 

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aeshna5

Well-known member

• Oct 27, 2019

• #3

2 Yellow-legged Gull.

 

rollingthunder

Well-known member

• Oct 27, 2019

• #4

Agree so far...

My initial thought on #1 was LBB but considering the strong light and the brutish head and driller it looks YLG to me but with a very strong cast on the mantle...

Laurie -

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Oct 27, 2019

• #5

1 is also a YLG, agree on the others (2 YLG, 3,4 BHG).

 

Fandango739

GeoBird

• Oct 27, 2019

• #6

Is there any odd chance for a cross between YLG and LBB?

Thanks.

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Oct 27, 2019

• #7

such crosses exist but i see no evidence for a hybrid here. mantle colour in photos can be extremely deceptive in large gulls due to lighting conditions. the large and high bill with strong gonys angle definitely is of a male michahellis.