Wader Photographed in South Africa (1 Viewer)

doug_newman · Mar 9, 2005

HI all.
Maybe as the northern hemisphere folk are a lot more familiar with calidris waders, I was wondering on opinions on this bird. My feel in jizz would be little stint, however the lighter appearance and more noticable dark feather centers had me interested in rednecked stint. It was photographed at an inland pan.

Nutcracker · Mar 9, 2005

Never seen these two in full winter plumage, but looking in 'Shorebirds' suggests Little, as the dark feather centres are diffuse, whereas RNS is shown as having a more sharply defined fine black line

doug_newman · Mar 9, 2005

Nutcracker said:
Never seen these two in full winter plumage, but looking in 'Shorebirds' suggests Little, as the dark feather centres are diffuse, whereas RNS is shown as having a more sharply defined fine black line

I thought so as well. I checked shorebirds and I would say the more obvious thing is the slightly more "hunch-backed" look of little sting vs the more slender look of rednecked. The only thing that got me excited first was that it was far lighter in appearance than the others it was with. Possibly a bird from the tropics or so - more bleached feathers. Might this also be due to age? Would there be a difference in overall plumage fadig in winter with firsta year adults vs older birds. Might this be an older bird than the group it was with?

Bubbs · Mar 9, 2005

Nutcracker said:
Never seen these two in full winter plumage, but looking in 'Shorebirds' suggests Little, as the dark feather centres are diffuse, whereas RNS is shown as having a more sharply defined fine black line

Have just typed red necked stint into yahoo search. Clicked on 1. Errrr I don't think so!

John.

doug_newman · Mar 9, 2005

john barclay said:
Have just typed red necked stint into yahoo search. Clicked on 1. Errrr I don't think so!

John.

Are they that different in full winter plumage?

doug_newman · Mar 9, 2005

doug_newman said:
Are they that different in full winter plumage?

If you went too the wikipedia link, ummm thoes are not rednecked stints inthe pic they show. Thoes are sand-plovers of a sort.

Nutcracker · Mar 9, 2005

doug_newman said:
If you went too the wikipedia link, ummm thoes are not rednecked stints inthe pic they show. Thoes are sand-plovers of a sort.

I've removed the offending pic now! (tho' it'll still be on google's cache of course)

Edward woodwood · Mar 9, 2005

seen big numbers of RNS in winter plumage

for what it's worth they are very very difficult for me to separate except on call!!!

calls are really very different

Tim

doug_newman · Mar 10, 2005

Tim Allwood said:
seen big numbers of RNS in winter plumage

for what it's worth they are very very difficult for me to separate except on call!!!

calls are really very different

Tim

Hmmm.... That makes it very difficult for us here in SA. We only get a few of these birds and they are considered a rarity here. They virtuallynever call, so one has to rely solely on giss and feather markings.

Jane Turner · Mar 10, 2005

I find winter plumage stints really hard... though If I saw this here I'd not be looking much past Little Stint (possibly wrongly!)

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