Mongolian Birds early August (1 Viewer)

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George London

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• Apr 13, 2012

• #1

Please could someone ID the attached birds?

A & B: Altai mountains far West probably 2500 metres both around a small lake.
A (small thrush size). B had one white stripe along the underside of each wing rest black, behaved a bit like a wagtail is it some sort of redstart?
C & D: Centre North by large rivers, C (chaffinch size) in open plains, D (wren size) edge large forest.

Any help much appreciated.

George

 

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StuartReeves

Local rarity

• Apr 13, 2012

• #2

I think 2 is a juvenile Guldenstadt's Redstart and 3 is Grey-necked Bunting. With the other two, I'd wait until the parents show and to identify them!

 

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Gretchen

Well-known member

• Apr 14, 2012

• #3

Really don't know, but I had #3 as some sort of rose finch...(which kind? no idea yet)

 

Jacana

Will Jones

• Apr 14, 2012

• #4

the Bunting looks more like an Ortolan to me, it appears to have a grey breast band.

 

Douwe

Well-known member

• Apr 14, 2012

• #5

jacana said:

the Bunting looks more like an Ortolan to me, it appears to have a grey breast band.

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I agree with ortolan for the same reason, grey-necked does not have this band.

Douwe

 

JWN Andrewes

Poor Judge of Pasta.

• Apr 14, 2012

• #6

First one looks like an immature Accentor sp., with I suppose Altai (aka Himalayan) the most likely candidate.

I'm in agreement with Guldenstadt's & Ortolan.

The fourth has a Red-breasted Flycatcher look to it. Maybe.

James

 

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George London

Well-known member

• Apr 15, 2012

• #7

Thanks very much for responses...

Any other ideas on 1 and 4 appreciated.

Now I have the perfect excuse for the Mrs to go back there to ID the nippers' Mums and Dads!

Thanks George

 

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stenura

Well-known member

• Apr 15, 2012

• #8

1. I believe the pattern of the greater coverts suggest Altai Accentor (rather than Alpine). Perhaps Hodgson's Mountain Finch could spring to mind as well, but to me the bill proportions looks too weak for a Mountain Finch.

2. Agree on juv Guldenstadt's.

3. Agree Ortolan.

4. A bit tricky, but in this part of the world I believe the tail pattern excludes anything but a Ficedula flycatcher. Looks like a juvenile bird, and since juvenile Mugimaki shows an all dark tail, my vote goes to Taiga Flycatcher.

/Magnus