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Is Vortex Optics next?? (2 Viewers)

I have lived long enough to remember people saying much the same about Japanese manufacturing as some are saying about Chinese today. My father insisted on buying a totally inferior German camera back in the early 1960s instead of the excellent Yashica I had requested on the advice of the photo shop that wouldn't touch Japanese products.

In fact I was in a major London photo retailer about 25 years ago when someone came in enquiring about Panasonic cameras and was told to try the hardware shop further down the road as proper photo shops don't handle that stuff. They did handle other Japanese brands by then, but not something that sounded like a vacuum cleaner. That shop has gone but Panasonic remain!

Times change

This is funny to me as well; people for years even argued the merits of the Nikon EDG as an "alpha" since it was produced in Japan as opposed to Germany. Funny how things change.
 
The Chicom's are said to have a 100 year plan of domination based on Western Greed and they are well on their way to success.

For the last 20 some years any Western Company wanting to do business in Chicom territory had to turn over their R&D and other intellectual properties, as cost of doing business in China - that's just greed on the their/USA business companies part seeking higher profits. The Chicom's would reverse engineer those hi-tech products and then filed a zillion patent applications.

Apple and like corporations are building plants in China under China's rules for doing business. What doesn't get turned over, the Chicom's are able to steal via stealth cyber means and what all this amounts to is the theft of $600 Billion a year in intellectual property from USA Companies.

Slick Willie gave permission for USA companies to assist the Chicom's in developing their aerospace industry - we know how all that turned out to benefit the Chicom's.

The Chicom's are a force to be reckoned with and the clock is ticking. The West needs to muster the political will to stand-up and be counted, while the USA Education System needs to rid itself of the socialists and get back to education.

I think Europe is taking a bigger overall hit and that will probably show its ugly side in 10 years or less. Yup, things are changing, but not the way I would like to see them change.

What has all this to do with China manufacturing optics? I'm pretty sure Chicom can make optics as well as any other Nation.
 
i simply do not understand why a rather large place like the usa empire does not have the education, skill base or other ability to make good optics. can they not make good glass? just beer bottles? is it because they freed their slaves and thus have to use cheap factories abroad? sold yourselves out it seems. the countries that lost the ww2 both germany and japan make the best optical devices you all say and now you disparage the chinese. well they certainly seem to make better 'things' than usa does. and better profit for your masters too. stop buying the chinese, japanese and german stuff and see if any americans have the ability to make them from amongst your educated class and manufacturing cities. cant be that hard.

How’re the British optics manufactories doing these days?
 
I'm always a fan of keeping American jobs, but the notion that "made in China" means lower quality is a misconception. Most companies that outsource to China have traveling reps that oversee the manufacture of their goods to ensure quality control, so nah not necessarily mass produced Chinese junk. As long as you aren't buying $10 binoculars off eBay with impossibly high magnification and obviously inaccurate objective diameter, I wouldn't worry about being made in China unless you're talking strictly from an ethical standpoint. Nikon makes a lot of their stuff in China too, just sayin...

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The old 8.5x50 "regular/non-HD" Viper I bought are nice even though FOV is tight. Very even field twixt globe effect & pincushion listing ever so slightly to PC. Just noted on a low bright cloudy day purple fringing on last 15% if I kicked me eyes from center to edge. Well made taut focuser shows no play either way & MIJ.

The 15X56 Pterodactyl, dino of big eyes, was an excellant value. More PC than the 8.5, same solid focus w/o play MIC.

Whether such construction will continue from China labour remains to be seen. Still, the Viper warranty is solid & w/o such I would not have purchased any models. Still, if the percentage of returned units reaches a certain level either Vortex or the purchasers will grow weary of the headache.

I have a riflescope I purchased, MIP, after the bins. The gease inside the zoom hardened a while back. Vortex explaination was due to sitting in a gun safe. Funny, as the bins sit around a lot, esp the 8.5, though they focus as smooth as evah.

Yes, I contacted Vortex & can return the scope which they claim will be disassembled, cleaned & greased. Undoubtedly I hope w/superior grease. Had they used the same lubricant as the MIJ bins, or apparently the MIC as well, I would not have this issue.

ETA: As well MIJ/MIC/MIP could to a degree boil down to pot luck though the more expensive models should be superior in on eor more arenas, yet possibly similar in others.
 
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