Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

monarch 7 or compact binoculars which

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Friday 8th November 2019, 20:46   #1
painfindinganame
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: essex
Posts: 12
monarch 7 or compact binoculars which

hello anyone know these & their relative comparative merits or which one to buy
nikon hg l dcf or monarch 7 or zeiss terra or stryka 7 or used swarovski companion

Last edited by Troubador : Saturday 9th November 2019 at 15:42.
painfindinganame is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 8th November 2019, 22:21   #2
pfillion666
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Montreal
Posts: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by painfindinganame View Post
hello anyone know these & their relative comparative merits or which one to buy
nikon hg l dcf or monarch 7 or zeiss terra or stryka 7 or used swarovsky companion
I have never tried the Monarch HG but I can tell you that the Monarch 7 8x42 are really good for the price.

I was also wondering if it's worth paying more for the MHG vs the M7. Here in Canada you can buy the Monarch 7 8x42 for $600 and the best price that I have seen for the HG 8x42 is $1350.
pfillion666 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 07:51   #3
giosblue
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Ashton
Posts: 333
I've recently bought a pair of Nikon Monarch 7 8x30 and they are brilliant, highly recommended.
256 from Jessops. In comparison to my Vortex Razors I don't feel like I am missing out on anything.
They are pin sharp, good contrast and a wide field of view.
giosblue is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 10:29   #4
F88
Registered User
 
F88's Avatar

 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: East Coast
Posts: 227
Quote:
Originally Posted by painfindinganame View Post
hello anyone know these & their relative comparative merits or which one to buy
nikon hg l dcf or monarch 7 or zeiss terra or stryka 7 or used swarovsky companion
If you're talking about Nikon's top model before the EDG, which I think you are, the HG L DCF. I wouldn't hesitate to get my hands on one if I could.
I had the Monarch 7 in 8x30 and couldn't stand the glare.
Zeiss Terra are another Chinese option that isn't worth the coin apart from the 8x25 (made in Japan), by most reports. The Victory 8x25 is excellent but expensive (also made in Japan).
Never heard of the Stryka.
Would happily skip the Companion depending.
So if the HG L is on the cards that'd be my choice from the bunch by far (8x32 or 42). It's a premium bit of gear with positive comparison to the EDG which I have and is my favourite glass.
Hope this helps.

Last edited by F88 : Saturday 9th November 2019 at 10:34.
F88 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 10:35   #5
edwincjones
Registered User

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 1,187
If at all possible,
go to a store that has a good selection of binoculars
and try all out, see which ones you like.
We can tell you which ones we like, but
it comes down to your personal preference.
and
your planned use-which is what?

edj
__________________
"I see skies of blue and clouds of white,
the bright blessed day, the dark sacred night,
and I think to myself what a wonderful world"
-L Armstrong, IZ, and others
edwincjones is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 15:34   #6
[email protected]
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,201
It is best to try them yourself but IMO I prefer the Nikon MHG or the HG L over the other binoculars you were considering like the M7 depending on how much the price difference is. In the US sometimes you can get the Nikon MHG for as low as $650.00 on sale and you can always get them for $750.00 on Ebay from Japan so that is a consideration. I don't think I would pay your Canadian price of $1350.00 for the MHG though. At that price I would start looking at used alpha's like maybe a Nikon EDG from Japan. Then you have one of the best.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NIKON-8...UAAOSwKQ9aEWg1

Last edited by [email protected] : Saturday 9th November 2019 at 16:13.
denco@comcast.n is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 17:41   #7
justabirdwatcher
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TX
Posts: 631
Someone just listed a pair of 8x30 Monarch 7's in the classifieds fwiw.
justabirdwatcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th November 2019, 19:57   #8
painfindinganame
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: essex
Posts: 12
thanks to everyone for their kind help I think i'm looking for a 10x pair & if anyone else has an imput please let me know, all the best ~S
painfindinganame is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 10th November 2019, 02:04   #9
jring
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,155
Hi,

regarding a 10x30 pair, I would recommend that you try one in person if you haven't already. The format is not everybodies cup of tea with the small exit pupil (and thus less light and difficult eye placement), smaller true field and more difficult to hold steady.

I personally use a 10x42 only when I know that I will be only looking for distant stuff.

As for the models mentioned, the HGL as a former alpha is certainly the best one, but not very small and light for a32mm pair. It is also strongly recommended for use with glasses.

The Swaro is not bad (as it should be regarding the price) but there was a quite improved new model a few years ago...

Nikon M7 8x30 is the standard answer for low price compact and does a lot of things right (except for glare control and only average eye relief for use with glasses). Not sure about the 10x30 due to less popularity...

The Zeiss Terras are so-so, except for the 25mm pocket models which are decent in their class.

Don't know the Styrka.

Joachim
jring is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 11th November 2019, 15:36   #10
Upland
Registered User

 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bozeman, MT
Posts: 381
Since you are across the pond I would add the Opticron Traveller to your list. My wife has a pair of 8x32s that she loves. They also have a 10x32 model that you could try. As for the others the M7 had the worst glare of any bino I’ve owned and the Styrka, in 10x42, the worst CA. They made a dove look positively electrified!
Upland is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 11th November 2019, 16:59   #11
mwhogue
Registered User
BF Supporter 2019

 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Friendswood
Posts: 138
Quote:
Originally Posted by painfindinganame View Post
thanks to everyone for their kind help I think i'm looking for a 10x pair & if anyone else has an imput please let me know, all the best ~S
Pain,

You are getting lots of excellent advice on this and your other thread re specifically the various Monarch versions. Generally speaking if you want a 30/32 IMO you should go for an 8x as opposed to 10x unless you are willing to move up to the alpha level. I agree with Dennis and F88, a used (or sale priced) EDG in 8 or especially 10x32 would be an excellent option budget permitting. The short version is in the mid price range at least an 8x 30/32 will be noticeably better optically and a more versatile all around bin than a 10.

Hope this helps.

Mike
mwhogue is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2019 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Monday 11th November 2019, 19:36   #12
painfindinganame
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: essex
Posts: 12
A big thank you to you all
painfindinganame is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 12th November 2019, 13:41   #13
painfindinganame
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: essex
Posts: 12
hiya

a step to the side has anyone compared the trinovid with the monarch hg / l ?
cheers ~S
painfindinganame is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 12th November 2019, 20:11   #14
F88
Registered User
 
F88's Avatar

 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: East Coast
Posts: 227
Quote:
Originally Posted by painfindinganame View Post
hiya

a step to the side has anyone compared the trinovid with the monarch hg / l ?
cheers ~S
No, but here's the thing. In that price bracket we have the Trinovid HD, Monarch HG and Conquest HD. Where I'm from they are all basically the same price.
The Trinovid HD would be the last pick, honestly with the other two choices I wouldn't even consider it. A bit of a toss up between the Nikon and the Zeiss.
It looks like you're still mixing up the names of the Nikons too, it's a Monarch HG not HG L as that's an entirely different model and not from the Monarch line. For ease of description the Monarch goes by MHG and the HG or HG L as simply that.
Back to the crux, I think many would agree that the MHG is the better buy over the Trinovid HD and that the Zeiss Conquest HD is a good choice also.
F88 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 13th November 2019, 01:55   #15
dries1
Registered User
BF Supporter 2019
 
dries1's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,774
Nikon

Pain,

Pics of the HG 10X32 prior to the HG L, on the left, the early HG and HG L are essentially the same glass, these were made in 2002-2004 and the later model the Monarch HG, 8 and 10X42 shown.

Andy W.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	hg 10X32.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	99.2 KB
ID:	709935  Click image for larger version

Name:	HG10&8X42.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	48.1 KB
ID:	709936  
dries1 is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2018 2019 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 13th November 2019, 15:17   #16
justabirdwatcher
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TX
Posts: 631
Quote:
Originally Posted by dries1 View Post
Pain,

Pics of the HG 10X32 prior to the HG L, on the left, the early HG and HG L are essentially the same glass, these were made in 2002-2004 and the later model the Monarch HG, 8 and 10X42 shown.

Andy W.
Man, those early HG and HG L (sometimes designated LX-L) sure were sweet. I miss my 10x42's. If they had a tripod adapter thread, I never would have sold them.
justabirdwatcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 15th November 2019, 14:40   #17
dries1
Registered User
BF Supporter 2019
 
dries1's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,774
Hg

Justabirdwatcher,

You mean the later version of these, which were much lighter. These are about as heavy as some 10X50s.

Andy W.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF2429.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	221.1 KB
ID:	710098  
dries1 is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2018 2019 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Friday 15th November 2019, 14:43   #18
justabirdwatcher
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TX
Posts: 631
Quote:
Originally Posted by dries1 View Post
Justabirdwatcher,

You mean the later version of these, which were much lighter. These are about as heavy as some 10X50s.

Andy W.
Yes, the later version of those. They had a delicious view. They also balanced in the hand so well that they felt much lighter than they were.
justabirdwatcher is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Compact Binoculars Ian Cockburn Others 8 Tuesday 5th November 2019 16:17
Compact binoculars lizzy Bushnell - Bausch & Lomb 2 Friday 28th March 2008 12:50
Compact binoculars in 6x or 7x etc Binoculars 18 Saturday 17th February 2007 17:28
Compact binoculars? etc Leica 7 Thursday 15th February 2007 20:52
Which compact binoculars Lewie Leica 14 Wednesday 24th August 2005 14:35

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.21169496 seconds with 32 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:52.