It is just normal people really. A lot of people rent them and the sporting good's store's just rent Swaro's. You don't see ONE Nikon or Kowa.STATUS QUO with their rose gold rolex daytona watch to boot I bet...
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New Product Introduction Today From Swarovski ? (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter John A Roberts
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Ha! Good idea, but I don't drink.
In Swarovski's new advertising it is the "N L Pure."
https://www.swarovskioptik.com/birding/nl-pure-c21011201/nl-pure-10x42-p5598773
It looks, to me anyway, like a large version of the CL Companion B.
I wonder if its eyepieces have "optical box" construction like the CL Companion B?
Bob
https://www.swarovskioptik.com/birding/nl-pure-c21011201/nl-pure-10x42-p5598773
It looks, to me anyway, like a large version of the CL Companion B.
I wonder if its eyepieces have "optical box" construction like the CL Companion B?
Bob
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dwatsonbirder
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don't be so rude!
Suppose you are a very enthusiastic young (or old) birder having saved enough money to finally buy that Swarovision / Noctivid / SF you know you'll be using for the next 10-15 years, and this one comes out...
First of all you'll need to save some more but anyone shopping for the very best has one more contender to consider, and I think that's a good thing!
I suppose so, but I'd argue that if you are that keen c. 2000 euros would be better spent getting some field experience with a c. 500 euro pair of binoculars. Personal preference I suppose!
Yeah I also thought about that, and there is a balance between getting good enough view on a once in a lifetime trip, and not wanting to risk damage/loss/theft to your top pair. A decent used 8x32 was the right balance for me.
You and I both (purchasing our first house at present!), perhaps I'll just buy a second pair of FL's - if I ever have any spare money again! :-O
dwatsonbirder
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You are correct. I had an SLC for over a decade, and enjoyed over 1500 species across all four continents with it. I've not had chance to put my newly acquired FL through its paces yet (local birding only) but haven't found the edges to be an issue yet... hopefully I won't. A friend uses the SV, and I will admit it offers a stunning view for its size, but personally I just can't see such a minor improvement being worth the financial outlay, though others may disagree.
For many years I have been asking for EWA binoculars to deaf ears.
Finally, something approaching EWA has arrived.
I think that now cheaper competitors will produce EWA binoculars.
I have also been asking for 12x45. I suppose a high quality 12x42 might suit.
So long as the eye relief is not excessive.
I also don't want rolling ball.
The question is whether with Covid 19 quality manufacture can be achieved together with quality back up.
I would be suspicious of any binocular made at the present time, and would prefer one year old production.
And have the technicians lost part of their skill with time at home.
If I am still around I might consider the 12x42 at a later date.
The headrest might work if fully adjustable.
And does it all work when wearing a mask.
Posting myself in a large envelope for fitting might be a problem.
Regards,
B.
Finally, something approaching EWA has arrived.
I think that now cheaper competitors will produce EWA binoculars.
I have also been asking for 12x45. I suppose a high quality 12x42 might suit.
So long as the eye relief is not excessive.
I also don't want rolling ball.
The question is whether with Covid 19 quality manufacture can be achieved together with quality back up.
I would be suspicious of any binocular made at the present time, and would prefer one year old production.
And have the technicians lost part of their skill with time at home.
If I am still around I might consider the 12x42 at a later date.
The headrest might work if fully adjustable.
And does it all work when wearing a mask.
Posting myself in a large envelope for fitting might be a problem.
Regards,
B.
You can't get Rolling Ball if you are in a large envelope and wearing a headrest.
Lee
I have never seen a thread with this many post's in such a short period of time on Bird Forum. When Swarovski introduce's a new product it attract's a lot of attention from the birder's. You have to give it too Swarovski they are probably the leader's in optical innovation.
I see the soap and brush are not what immediately comes to mind as in a bar of 'bath soap and a wire brush
'.... perhaps they need to rename them
Hermann
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They'd say that, wouldn't they? And if you believe that you'll believe anything.
Hermann
temmie
Well-known member
Try the Zeiss SF topics, and count the number of posts before anyone but a few testers got to see the binocular in real life... 3
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John Cantelo
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Not vulgar but realistic. How can Swarovski justify such an astronomical price? Given you can get a top-notch instrument for half the price (and a exceptional one for a quarter) I really do wonder whether they've priced themselves out of the market (or rather into a market so small it makes little economic sense). A sub-£1000 instrument would have made more sense.
The BulbMogul
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Yes usually these is so little excitement about anything but this has everyone all fired up. This is as bad as the release and sale of the new Nikon D6 with Nikon 120-300MM F/2.8 FL ED VR SR Zoom lens.. It is and was just as fired up as this is with a heck of a lot more in cost too. People who are going to buy things like this usually just do... SWAR is a great promoter of there product for sure like Nikon..
Kammerdiner
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I just got an ad (Cornell Lab of Ornithology) for a BTX spotter with a peep sight and a forehead rest.
Could a forehead rest work at 60x??
Could a forehead rest work at 60x??
jan van daalen
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Hi John,
I think they own the complete high end market now.
Streetprice will be round:
2.600,00 for the NL.
1.700,00 for the SV32.
1.850,00 for the SV42.
1.500,00 and 1.600,00 for the SLC 42.
The Zeiss SF42 will be round 2.350,00 euro and the SF32 round 2.200,00 euro.
With the tsunami on trade in SV's this autumn these 42's will go for round 1.000,00 euro back upped with the famous Swarovski warranty.
Do the math.
Jan
No, it can't (personal experience), which is why I mentioned it in my previous post on this thread. It's a ridiculous idea.
Poor techie guys having to do a PR piece on their own… I feel their pain! Wonder how many takes they had to do?!
Clever topical marketing and good to see they’ve widened their view a bit… “no edges”…. even the WX has edges as do my 82degree eyepiece bins. Interesting to see the same aperture to save on tooling costs. Stable views at 12x… with one hand, been doing that for ages (with batteries). Looking forward to real world comparisons of how earth shatteringly good it is…. And who is going to push the width envelope next?
Peter
Clever topical marketing and good to see they’ve widened their view a bit… “no edges”…. even the WX has edges as do my 82degree eyepiece bins. Interesting to see the same aperture to save on tooling costs. Stable views at 12x… with one hand, been doing that for ages (with batteries). Looking forward to real world comparisons of how earth shatteringly good it is…. And who is going to push the width envelope next?
Peter
Swarovski has the best service and the best warranty in the business and that is partly what you are paying for when you buy one. They also have the best resale and maintain their value better than any other premium brand in my experience. You are paying for cutting edge technology and the fact that the binocular is built mostly by Swarovski under tight quality control and not subcontracted by Kamakura like so many other binocular's are nowday's. Even with their astronomical prices they still sell five times as many binocular's as any other premium optics manufacturer.
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henry link
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If you mean Stefan and Wolfgang I think they're marketing guys, not techies. Wolfgang was thrown off by a simple question about the prism type. Still, I couldn't help but like them. Their deliveries were quite the opposite of smooth "influencers". My guess is one take was all they could stand.
