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Old Friday 14th February 2020, 13:16   #1
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Question Help Gull

Hello everyone.
What is this gull?
Larus glaucoides kumlieni OR Larus cachinnans ??

(07.02.2020 Kirklareli Turkey)
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Old Friday 14th February 2020, 14:10   #2
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Neither; has the 'gentle' look of a Common Gull to me but only viewed on small screen.

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Old Saturday 15th February 2020, 00:20   #3
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Agree Common Gull Larus canus; an immature.

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I'm not sure if you noticed the pattern of the outermost tail feather, the "not-dark" eye and bill structure of this bird...
Would you have more pics of this gull?
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Old Saturday 15th February 2020, 08:52   #5
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..., the "not-dark" eye ...
???

The eye is dark, even when the pic is over-brightened to near-complete burnout in photoshop

The bill looks OK to me for Larus canus, the dark ring isn't strong enough for L. delawarensis.
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Old Saturday 15th February 2020, 09:46   #6
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Can a common gull ever show such a heavily barred tail (unless it’s a Kamchatka gull?). For me this is one of the LWH gulls
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Old Saturday 15th February 2020, 10:07   #7
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exactly. i have commented on this gull in PM already. from the first view it is clear that this is a 3rd cycle LWHG and if you see this pic: https://scontent.ffra2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...f2&oe=5EC3767A of it, the length of white tongues and large p10 mirror makes it a 4cy caspian gull
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The eye is dark, even when the pic is over-brightened to near-complete burnout in photoshop

The bill looks OK to me for Larus canus, the dark ring isn't strong enough for L. delawarensis.
Perhaps you can see what I mean with this brightened version. If you can see the pupil (as I do) then the eye is not fully dark. For the record, I wasn't suggesting RBGull (definitely couldn't be one with such large mirror of P10 for example). If I thought it was one I would have said so.
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exactly. i have commented on this gull in PM already. from the first view it is clear that this is a 3rd cycle LWHG and if you see this pic: https://scontent.ffra2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...f2&oe=5EC3767A of it, the length of white tongues and large p10 mirror makes it a 4cy caspian gull
Can a "pure" Caspian have such a bill, or mixed genes could be involved here?
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how did find you my other gull photo? I didnt share this site
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