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Acrocephalus sp, September Cyprus (1 Viewer)
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Deb Burhinus
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I agree 1 and 2 look Reed Warbler - not sure for 3 and 4 - colour tones look better for Caspian/fuscus (grey nape/head, pale underparts, absence of olive and any yellow tones) ) but lack of comparatively short emargination to p3 is better for Marsh isn’t it?
KenM
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I believe P3 emargination on Marsh Warbler is outside the tertial area (further down the wing) not unlike Reed Warbler in that respect Deb?
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Deb Burhinus
Used to be well known! 😎
That’s what I was indicating Ken - the p3 emargination on a Caspian should be about level with p10 but the wing in the op doesn’t look to have such a short emargination - so favouring Marsh or Eurasian Reed in this respect. The colours are not typical for marsh (certainly for a fresh one).
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Deb Burhinus
Used to be well known! 😎
Interesting article here - Perhaps a potential intergrade of scirpaceous/fuscus should be considered too, (it is Cyprus after all!)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03078698.2012.749734
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03078698.2012.749734
KenM
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Thanks Deb! will employ my grey matter later. :t:
Deb Burhinus
Used to be well known! 😎
Please note, it relates to spring birds so not applicable here in terms of wing length/notch length etc - just suffice to say there are variations in the biometrics in the intergrade zone (as well as colour) so may be of general interest.
As far as the OP #2 - I would be interested in what the ‘experts’ have to say ...perhaps just one of the more southerly/eastern paler populations of nominate Reed?
